Frustration sizing TV and 5er.

[NMWildcat]

My general rule of thumb is 12k total and under, 3/4 ton is fine. 12k - 14k, depends on the truck and trailer. 14k+, 1 ton or better.
My pin weights have always been right around 15%.
If I'm under on all other weight suggestions, I pretty much ignore CC as long as the squat is acceptable.
My current RV, fully loaded, is around 11.5k to 12k. Fully loaded with wood, water, extra fuel, for boondocking, the truck can be 900lbs over CC. Truck isn't even squatted near level. This rig is now 7 years old and the truck is 12. Been all over the country.
Do your research and do what feels right to you. You will know if you were correct on your first trip
The folks who are sticklers for numbers will have you towing a pop-up with a semi tractor

[67L48]

Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82

[...] He pulls a 2007 Montana, 38' long, 2000 pin weight, 14500 +/- scaled weight. [...]

A 14,500 lb 5th wheel trailer that only puts 2,000 lbs on the pin? That's only 13.8%. I think 15-20% is the rule of thumb. I'd be concerned about the loading in this trailer, about being too back-loaded, and, ultimately, being a bit on the unsafe side by not having enough weight on the pin. I think he's about 500 lbs too light, if not a bit more.

Originally Posted by hbillsmith

[...] 2015 GMC Sierra 2500HD Diesel (not crew)- sticker payload 2515# from the factory. I added 3-step nerf bars, an underbed goose hitch, an Anderson Ultimate 5th wheel hitch,Curt 4" extenda ball,Firestone Airbags,AirOne wireless air compressor,Fold-a-cover 4 hardpanel bed cover,GMC OEM rubber bed mat [...]

[...] So with those addons and stuff and with passengers the Payload drops from its sticker (2515#) down to 2,105#. [...]

Am I reading this correctly that all of those options you listed and the passengers in the truck only amount to 410 lbs (2,515 - 2,105)?

The folks who are sticklers for numbers are fine with towing a pop-up with a minivan, provided the ratings are met.

[Jimer]

The 5er you are thinking about buying is a “Ultra light” 2889ws
Forest river is marketing this unit for a “1500 Towable”
It has a pin weight of 1375lb.
Your 2500HD Duramax is the perfect truck for this 5er.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by Jimer

GM includes 150lb driver for payload rating.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.
TOWING capacity factors a 150lb driver and full tank.
PAYLOAD capacity only factors a full tank. The driver is considered as an Occupant. The driver's door yellow sticker states "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs". So 150lb driver is not included in the Payload Capacity number.

[Jimer]

I think you are right? The GM tow guide said GCWR is figured with a 150lb driver

[DouglasReid]

Originally Posted by NMWildcat

My general rule of thumb is 12k total and under, 3/4 ton is fine. 12k - 14k, depends on the truck and trailer. 14k+, 1 ton or better.
My pin weights have always been right around 15%.
If I'm under on all other weight suggestions, I pretty much ignore CC as long as the squat is acceptable.
My current RV, fully loaded, is around 11.5k to 12k. Fully loaded with wood, water, extra fuel, for boondocking, the truck can be 900lbs over CC. Truck isn't even squatted near level. This rig is now 7 years old and the truck is 12. Been all over the country.
Do your research and do what feels right to you. You will know if you were correct on your first trip
The folks who are sticklers for numbers will have you towing a pop-up with a semi tractor

Same Camper, Same Truck, Same opinions!!

[NMWildcat]

Originally Posted by DouglasReid

Same Camper, Same Truck, Same opinions!!

Great minds think alike and all that

[frank4711]

Originally Posted by Jimer

The 5er you are thinking about buying is a “Ultra light” 2889ws
Forest river is marketing this unit for a “1500 Towable”
It has a pin weight of 1375lb.
Your 2500HD Duramax is the perfect truck for this 5er.

Yes what he said ....