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07-19-2014, 11:56 AM
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Gooseneck adapter
Does anyone know if using an adapter puts too much stress on the trailer? I don't want to void any warranty! This is our first 5th wheel and we already had the gooseneck ball in the truck. 2010 Dodge 3500 with Wildcat 313re. It's also a shortbed, so wondering about clearance issues. Any help would be appreciated! Pick the trailer up next week, excited and nervous at the same time!
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07-19-2014, 12:06 PM
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Welcome to the forum!
Lippert Components manufactures a gooseneck pinbox that doesn't void their frame warranty. Here's a link... Goose Boxâ„¢ by Reese - Towing
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07-19-2014, 12:27 PM
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Thanks Dave! I'm going to look into that one!
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07-19-2014, 12:36 PM
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Exactly how long is your short bed? It appears to me that truck manufacturers are not always consistent with bed lengths as they relate to words used to define them.
Take a look at the Andersen Ultimate hitch. It sits on and connects to the B&W Turnover Ball gooseneck ball in my truck and weighs a total of 75 lbs. including the adapter which bolts onto the trailer's kingpin.
See http://www.andersenhitches.com/Produ...k-version.aspx
I paid $439.99 through Amazon. Several of us here use this hitch.
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07-19-2014, 02:33 PM
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Thank you Dan! The bed is 6' 3"
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07-19-2014, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Monica
Welcome to the forum!
Lippert Components manufactures a gooseneck pinbox that doesn't void their frame warranty. Here's a link... Goose Boxâ„¢ by Reese - Towing
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Interesting, I didn't know Lippert were manufacturing a "Goose Box".
The only downside I see is that you'd only be able to pull the trailer with a truck that has a ball in the bed which may or may not hurt the trade in value later on.
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07-19-2014, 02:47 PM
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The Andersen can be turned 180 deg. to accommodate a short bed truck.
It is by far the easiest hitch to install if you already have the ball in the truck.
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07-19-2014, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cypressloser
Interesting, I didn't know Lippert were manufacturing a "Goose Box".
The only downside I see is that you'd only be able to pull the trailer with a truck that has a ball in the bed which may or may not hurt the trade in value later on.
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I guess unbolting the goose hitch and installing a fifth wheel hitch is out of the question?
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07-19-2014, 03:14 PM
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Thank you Dan! The bed is 6' 3"
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My current "standard" bed is 6' 6" but the "short" bed (I called it a "baby" bed) on my 2007 was 5' 8".
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07-19-2014, 03:20 PM
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No, not out of the question. Just trying to use what is already installed. I'll take a look at the Anderson. Lippert doesn't make the goose box, Reese does. However, the Goose Box seems to be the only solution that Lippert endorses for their frames, which would keep the warranty intact. I'm a complete newbie to all of this and can't thank you all enough for the help! What a great forum!
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07-19-2014, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atcla
No, not out of the question. Just trying to use what is already installed. I'll take a look at the Anderson. Lippert doesn't make the goose box, Reese does. However, the Goose Box seems to be the only solution that Lippert endorses for their frames, which would keep the warranty intact. I'm a complete newbie to all of this and can't thank you all enough for the help! What a great forum!
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Sorry, my bad .
I have the Andersen for little over a year now and still love it because of it's low weight and small footprint.
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07-31-2014, 10:40 PM
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Just wondering what you went with. I had an RV2 adapter on my last 5er (Keystone Laredo). I went with it due to having space for my drag up tank and tool box. I never had an issue with it and had a B&W set up. On my new 5er (same rig as yours) I went with the B&W Companion. The difference in ride was very notable. The companion was much much smoother. and no more climbing in the bed to hook up chains.
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07-31-2014, 11:12 PM
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I have the gooseneck adapter on my fifth wheel. It tows great and like having full use of the bed of the truck when not towing. I have not had any issues either. My truck bed is not a short bed but I do believe they have a gooseneck ball that is offset for the short bed.
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08-02-2014, 01:22 PM
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Hi Salt, I went with what the dealer recommended, an RV2 with a 9" offset. Just towed it on our first trip and it works great. It gives an almost 90 degree turn if needed, and I needed that getting in our small driveway. Since I'm a newbie to all this I can't give much opinion on the ride, but you definetly know there is a trailer attached, I'm guessing you'd know that regardless of what setup you have!
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08-05-2014, 02:17 AM
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I've heard that the gooseneck adaptor a are actually better than the kingpin
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08-05-2014, 09:03 AM
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My 5ver has no warrenty (it's an 07), my frame is not a Lippert and against a lot of opinions, I have an adapter on mine. Pretty much for the reasons you stated.
1.) Truck already had a B&W turnover installed.
2.) I'm a cheap bastard, hence the 07 5ver, bougth as a repo and rehabbed.
3.) I race dirt bikes, hence the Work & Play 5ver. Truck is chase / pit vehicle. Wife is pit crew. If I bonk, crash or blow the bike, it gets loaded in truck. Sometimes by wife alone (depending on how bad I bonked). I did not want big 5th wheel hitch in the bed of my truck, for her to have to work around while loading dirt bike.
Here is the model I used;
Ranch Hitch Universal 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Coupler Adapter w/8" Offset for Short-Bed Trucks Andersen Gooseneck and Fifth Wheel Adapters AM3139
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08-05-2014, 09:43 AM
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I use the same Anderson gooseneck adapter but no offset. It works great. The truck came with B&W turnover gooseneck hitch
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08-05-2014, 01:31 PM
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My dad has a brand new Heartland HD fifth wheel toyhauler and installed the gooseneck ball in his new truck just for this land Lazy Days installed the adaptor on the fifth wheel for him and he refuses to use the king pin set up
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08-06-2014, 10:01 AM
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For anyone still reading this thread, Are safety chains required or used with the gooseneck setup? The dealer didn't say anything about it, just wondering if it's something I should look into?
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08-06-2014, 12:24 PM
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Yes safety chains are a must
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