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Old 10-29-2021, 05:22 PM   #41
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We have a 2020 Forest River 35’ Rockwood Ultra Lite, which I pull with a 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 crew cab. It has the heavy duty trailer package. I have had ZERO issues pulling from Ohio to Florida, Ohio to the Outer Banks, Ohio to Pigeon Forge, and so on. My suggestion though (regardless of truck) is - get a good stabilizing hitch. I have the Equalizer, which provides fantastic tracking, stability, and NO sway at all.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:48 PM   #42
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I have towed all sorts of heavy crap at work with diesels and large gas V8 motors.

I gotta admit. Towing our travel trailer max weight of 7800lbs if I recall with our Expedition that’s equipped with the 3.5 Ecoboost was very impressive. I fill up our water tank, food and everything else imaginable in our trailer and the motor just pulls like a freight train through the mountains. My Expy only has a 6speed auto. I can only imagine how much better it is with the newer trans with more gears.
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F 150 Ecoboot 3.5 Had a 2013 and that truck pulled 10,000 lbs of Fifth Wheel all day long! Add LT tires and the toss the squishy slippers. Money right now is F250 SD Diesel minimum. Traileritis sets in and you will need a bigger trailer too. Buy the truck once!
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I'm a ram guy. at that weight any ram with a 5.7 would be more then fine. Be on the look out for folks towing pop ups with duallys who will tell you you need a 3/4 ton truck.
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One other note, if you are ordering a new Ford F150, tow mirrors are NOT included in any tow package, they must be ordered separately. Power fold mirrors are not an easy add-on. I don't know any other manufacturers policy.
While this could seem stupid on Ford's part, recognize that many contractors need towing capacity but don't require tow mirrors. Ford's standard mirrors are sufficient for many short but heavy construction trailers.
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Old 10-29-2021, 09:06 PM   #46
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I have heard the same about the 3.5 Ecoboost. The only thing keeping me away from them is the repair cost if you lose the turbos.
For about $1500 +- $200 you can get another 5 years on a bumper to bumper warranty from Ford.
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Old 10-30-2021, 07:20 AM   #47
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I Bottom line answer, the 3.5 is Ford's best engine for towing.
Their best engine for light duty.

Ford doesn’t offer the 3.5L in F-250 which says a lot about it’s long term tow/haul durability.
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Old 10-30-2021, 07:46 AM   #48
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2800lbs and 3400lbs on the CCC. The 19RR is the one with the most CCC. The good thing is, there will ne no toys in the back. We want a toyhauler simply for the open space in the back. If we could find one that is lighter but still give us good open space, I'd be willing to take a look as well. We will have tons of capacity left over when fully loaded, as it's just the wife and I. The good thing is, most everything can travel in the camper.
With no toys, you'll be fine with any of the big 4 (GM, Mopar, Ford, Toyota). 19RR has more CCC because it has the same 3500 lb axles as the 22RR but less weight.



I towed a 22RR with a Tundra 5.7. My issue was payload. Even with a properly set up hitch, once we had a 1k lb motorcycle inside, all of our junk in the trailer, and all of our firewood, sugar wagon, blackstone, etc in the bed of the truck, it really felt squishy. With no bike and all the stuff from the bed now in the trailer, it pulled like a dream. We went with a 2500 gasser, but that was our choice since we would like to go with a 5th wheel later on.
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Old 10-30-2021, 08:16 AM   #49
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"losing" a turbo isn't a given. If one pays attention to the normal conventions for turbo equipped engines they can last a long time trouble free.

Regular oil changes using the specified oil and giving the engine some idle time before shutting down can go a long way to fending off turbo problems.

I had an early Ford Mustang with turbo. Owner's manual was specific on the "idle time" to let the turbo housing/bearings to cool. I was careful and did so. My ex-wife used to come charging into the driveway like a Domino's Pizza Driver and as soon as the wheels stopped she shut the engine off and ran for the house. Sometimes before the rear shocks had allowed the suspension to settle.
(just ONE of the many reasons she earned the title of "ex)

Eventually she cooked the turbo. Bearings froze up due to coked oil in them.

Today's turbo designs are a lot better with cooling for the center section as well as modern synthetic oils resisting coking far better than the 1980's vintages.

Just like any engine of any make, a turbocharged Ford Ecoboost will last a long time and be trouble free if one just takes care of it.
you are right about caring for the 150 3.5 Ecoboost. I bought a used 2014 Supercrew in 2018 from a Ford dealer. It was very well taken care of previously by the first owner that traded it in for a newer model. At the time we had an FR Salem Cruise Lite 171RBXL , but knowing we wanted to eventually trade up to something bigger. The truck has max tow pkg, 3.73 gearing, 20 inch wheels, but the short rear bed. We traded up in Oct. 2020 to the FR Salem Cruise Lite 263BHXL. It also is a daily driver getting 17-18 mpg driving 30-35 miles a day. when pulling the TT we still get 11-12 mpg here mostly around Florida. We always use the towhaul system for the tranny.
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Old 10-30-2021, 09:23 AM   #50
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Thanks for the reply. Which gasser did you go with if you don't mind. We looked at a Ram 2500 the other day with the 6.4.
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Old 10-30-2021, 10:39 AM   #51
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I'd say the GMs are to most reliable. The LS v8 has been around since 1999 and has never had issues. The 5.7 Hemi Camelot in 2002 but did have some issues through the years. The 5.0 Ford is the newest and hardest worked with smallest displacement. An ecoboost would be the least reliable long term but if you aren't keeping any of them past 150,000 miles it all won't matter to you. The 3.5 EcoBoost will have the most towing power, followed closely by the 6.2 GM if you can find one. Then the 5.7 Hemi, then the 5.3 Gm and 5.0 Ford being pretty similar behind that. The Ram is probably the least expensive you can still find discounts vs markups on the new ones in this wierd market.
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Old 10-30-2021, 09:30 PM   #52
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I'd say the GMs are to most reliable. The LS v8 has been around since 1999 and has never had issues. The 5.7 Hemi Camelot in 2002 but did have some issues through the years. The 5.0 Ford is the newest and hardest worked with smallest displacement. An ecoboost would be the least reliable long term but if you aren't keeping any of them past 150,000 miles it all won't matter to you. The 3.5 EcoBoost will have the most towing power, followed closely by the 6.2 GM if you can find one. Then the 5.7 Hemi, then the 5.3 Gm and 5.0 Ford being pretty similar behind that. The Ram is probably the least expensive you can still find discounts vs markups on the new ones in this wierd market.
The bad thing about the GM engines, are the vast amount of lifter failures as well as ring issues.
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Old 10-30-2021, 10:24 PM   #53
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The bad thing about the GM engines, are the vast amount of lifter failures as well as ring issues.
I had lifter failures on my 5.3 v-8.
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I had lifter failures on my 5.3 v-8.
A good friend of mine had them as well. He didn't even have 10,000 miles on the truck.
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Remember, the more options, the less payload. My loaded Tundra 1794, payload 1320. Great truck, just not capable of towing 1150 hitch weight TT to me. Traded to Superduty.
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Remember, the more options, the less payload. My loaded Tundra 1794, payload 1320. Great truck, just not capable of towing 1150 hitch weight TT to me. Traded to Superduty.
Love the Tundras. You are exactly right about the payload ratings. I would love to have a Tundra, but they are always lacking the rating I am looking for.
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That being said, we are looking at the Ram 1500, Ford F150, and the Chevy Silverado 1500.



I have all 3, bought in lots of 4 to 6 at a time based on whatever we get the best deal on. Currently we have a total of 47. I'm an HVAC contractor. I dont have the breakdown here at home, but we're fairly evenly split between all three.


All I can say is when long term costs are calculated from a standpoint of repairs for unanticipated problems, we've found that GM is substantially lower in the long run by a huge margin, Ford is 2nd, and Ram is way way down at the bottom of the list. The only way we'll buy Ram next go around is it will have to be one heck of a deal.


On a side not we have yet to have an engine related issue with the GM V8's, lifters, rings or anything else going back years.
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Old 10-31-2021, 10:37 AM   #58
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Read first two pages skipped to the end. I will agree look at each individual truck and the rating before deciding. I will also add that my first trl was a 36 ft 6900lb tow behind. Scaled it loaded at just under 10k. I towed it with both a 2014 Toyota limited with the 5.7 bought new and then traded that for a 2014 F-150 4x4 Platinum. Both towed and stopped with no problems. Both needed a WD hitch but so did the 3/4ton and 1 ton I had while owning the trailer though it was more for sway. Would I do it again heck yea even with everything I learned on this forum. The new 2022 Tundra with twin turbos could be very interesting combo if they keep the gears in the 4:30 range
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I have all 3, bought in lots of 4 to 6 at a time based on whatever we get the best deal on. Currently we have a total of 47. I'm an HVAC contractor. I dont have the breakdown here at home, but we're fairly evenly split between all three.


All I can say is when long term costs are calculated from a standpoint of repairs for unanticipated problems, we've found that GM is substantially lower in the long run by a huge margin, Ford is 2nd, and Ram is way way down at the bottom of the list. The only way we'll buy Ram next go around is it will have to be one heck of a deal.


On a side not we have yet to have an engine related issue with the GM V8's, lifters, rings or anything else going back years.
That is good to know. What breakdown issues are your Rams giving you? I've only had Rams for the last decade and have had good luck out of them except the the exhaust manifolds.
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Zero lifter, or any other engine problems, with either of my Silverados.
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