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05-10-2019, 12:35 PM
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#101
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Diesels
I admire your tolerance. As the owner of a Ram 3500, I always have my neighbors in mind as I operate my diesel. I watch the temp gauge, and when it rises, I cruise. I even try to make sure the truck’s pointed away from other trailers in the event I need to get into it late at night and don’t want lights shining into neighbors’ windows. Neighborly behavior. Sounds like your RV park attracts “campers” who use it as a home base and really don’t care about who they inconvenience. Unless you really like this place, I’d relocate.
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05-10-2019, 03:00 PM
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#102
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Join Date: Sep 2017
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Yes it is normal to warm up a diesel a few minutes b4 driving. Diesel oil capacity is in the 17 quart range ver 5 or 6 quarts in a gas engine among other reasons for a longer idle time. Even a gas engine should be idled a minute or 2 b4 driving. Yup it can be a neusence but i would never drive my diesel without a warmup period in the morning especially during cold weather. Imo.
I disagree with thecomment that idleing diesels for any reason is not good for diesel engines. Diesel engines are designed to turn on and never turn off. Start and stop ignition is BAD for diesel rigs
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05-10-2019, 04:11 PM
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#103
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Originally Posted by FFred
Ideling for any reason is not good for any diesel.
The only reason it might need to be done is to pressurize the air system.
With a good non leaky setup this should be 2-3 min.
AS soon as it runs smoothly (under 1 min) drive off at a modest pace and your diesel will warm with no harm.
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Tell that to the heavy equipment operators who built the Alcan highway. They never shut their equipment down in cold temperatures. Also, in my neck of the woods, when it's 30 below in January, I'll idle for 10 to 15 minutes to bring everything, including transmission fluid, up to operating temp. The Duramax is much happier.
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05-10-2019, 04:30 PM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Maurice, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by creedster
Tell that to the heavy equipment operators who built the Alcan highway. They never shut their equipment down in cold temperatures. Also, in my neck of the woods, when it's 30 below in January, I'll idle for 10 to 15 minutes to bring everything, including transmission fluid, up to operating temp. The Duramax is much happier.
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And on the North Slope there aer trucks that run 23/7 whether idling or driving so they dont' fail to start.
Not a fair comparison in a VERY cold environment to where it isn't so extreme.
In any event, it is not good for the long term life of the engine.
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05-10-2019, 04:56 PM
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#105
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DouglasReid
And on the North Slope there aer trucks that run 23/7 whether idling or driving so they dont' fail to start.
Not a fair comparison in a VERY cold environment to where it isn't so extreme.
In any event, it is not good for the long term life of the engine.
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I don't disagree but generalized statements that idling is unnecessary is a bit of a stretch as well. That was my point. Didn't realize that we were dealing with comparison parameters regarding the environment.
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05-10-2019, 05:45 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Kris, i thought that was a real picture of you also. Jay
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05-11-2019, 02:42 AM
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#107
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Queensland Australia
Posts: 19
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Diesel warm up
I idle my F250 up for about 2 to 3 minutes before moving off. we do not have the extremes of cold here in Aus, But i find the vehicle pulls better a little warmer than cold, In saying that I have a 4 inch exhaust fitted and it sounds like a F950 so I am ever conscious of neighbors and undue noise. good luck
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05-11-2019, 07:38 AM
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#108
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Warsaw,NC
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When I have to leave before 7am I leave my truck hooked to the camper so I can get the slides in and the jacks up. Then I crank the Silverado and slowly pull out of the campground. I think of other campers trying to sleep. When I stop at a rest area I cut my headlights off and shut the diesel down, idling a truck is a waste of diesel
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05-11-2019, 08:33 AM
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#109
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmacecsko
Once the oil pressure is up you can be on your way. Diesels do not heat up sitting at idle. If you want it to warm up you need to work it. That said I would not start it and floor it . But it can be slowly move out of the campground.
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I have 28 diesels sitting in my yard and every single one will warm up idling.
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05-11-2019, 09:04 AM
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#110
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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I have a Ram 3500 with factory installed electric start. It will run 15 min each time you start the truck , it automatically turns on the seats and steering wheel heat on.
It only allows you to start it twice.
I never could get the engine warm idling the engine for 30 minutes.
But if I drive 10 miles the engine temp gauge will move to 1/4 mark.
This is a Cummins 6.7L .
Some people say if you activate the exhaust break it will warm up quickly. Have not tested this yet.
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05-13-2019, 02:04 PM
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#111
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmacecsko
Once the oil pressure is up you can be on your way. Diesels do not heat up sitting at idle. If you want it to warm up you need to work it. That said I would not start it and floor it . But it can be slowly move out of the campground.
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DIESELS DO WARM UP ON THEIR OWN. AND NO MOTOR SHOULD BE PUT UNDER POWER UNTIL THE TEMP REACHES 100*f.
IT TAKES A GOOD 10 MIN FOR MY TRUCK (DODGE 3500 2011) TO WARM UP TO 179* WITH THE EXHAUST BRAKE ON. AND MY FORD TOOK LONGER.
BUT TO BE COURTEOUS I WOULD NOT PARK IT NEXT TO A BEDROOM AREA IF I WAS LEAVING BEFORE 7AM. BUT COME ON 7 IS LATE FOR MOST REAL CAMPERS. I'VE ALREADY HAD A POT OF COFFEE ON OVER THE FIRE I STARTED BY THEN.
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05-13-2019, 03:13 PM
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#112
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: Yellowknife
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
I have a Ram 3500 with factory installed electric start.
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Crazy! You don't have to hand crank yours?
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05-13-2019, 03:25 PM
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#113
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bearfred
DIESELS DO WARM UP ON THEIR OWN. AND NO MOTOR SHOULD BE PUT UNDER POWER UNTIL THE TEMP REACHES 100*f.
IT TAKES A GOOD 10 MIN FOR MY TRUCK (DODGE 3500 2011) TO WARM UP TO 179* WITH THE EXHAUST BRAKE ON. AND MY FORD TOOK LONGER.
BUT TO BE COURTEOUS I WOULD NOT PARK IT NEXT TO A BEDROOM AREA IF I WAS LEAVING BEFORE 7AM. BUT COME ON 7 IS LATE FOR MOST REAL CAMPERS. I'VE ALREADY HAD A POT OF COFFEE ON OVER THE FIRE I STARTED BY THEN.
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Just an FYI... posting in ALL CAPS on an internet forum is generally referred to as SHOUTING.
I see you have 2 posts. You may not have known.
Welcome non the less!
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05-13-2019, 04:14 PM
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#114
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Warsaw,NC
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I stopped at a rest area today pulling my camper, a commercial truck pulled in beside me and he shut his diesel engine down as soon as his wheels stopped rolling.
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05-18-2019, 09:13 AM
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#115
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Location: Reno, NV
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Somewhat related but some cities have outlawed unattended vehicle warm-ups.
The reason has to do with auto-theft, especially prevalent during the winter.
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05-18-2019, 09:49 AM
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#116
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bearfred
DIESELS DO WARM UP ON THEIR OWN. AND NO MOTOR SHOULD BE PUT UNDER POWER UNTIL THE TEMP REACHES 100*f
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A Ford Drive Train Engineer said, on video, that an engine is ready to go in 20 seconds in temperatures as low as -20 F.
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05-21-2019, 07:21 PM
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#117
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How long does a diesel have to idle after start-up
Lol. Saw this on the internet
I have got to order some of these.
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