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Old 06-27-2015, 10:09 PM   #1
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I REALLY need yall's help!

I have a 2015 RAM 2500 4wd, crew cab, 6'4" bed, Cummins 6.7, 68RFE auto trans and 342 gears.

I am buying a Puma Unleashed 351THSS toy hauler with a gross weight of 14K and a hitch weight of 1500 lbs.

I DO have the factory prep group and therefore now realize I have to have a adaptor plate for the bed (Reese 360.00 or Mopar 500.00.

Now onto WHICH 5th wheel hitch and why.............................................

I have read the internet 4 times now and I am now more confused than when I started. Do I need a 1000.00 hitch or is a 500.00 hitch completely capable of doing what I need?

Please forgive me for the ignorant questions and THANK YOU soooo much for your help!
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:17 PM   #2
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Which Reese are you looking at?
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:31 PM   #3
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Scratch that... gross weight.. Gotcha.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:31 PM   #4
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Which Reese are you looking at?
At this point I have no clue. I 'assume' a 15K hitch will be sufficient due to the fact that max CVGW is 14K. Do I need a 'slider'? What does a slider do? DO I need a 'air' hitch? It 'appears' there are about 1000 options for a hitch and I don't know crap about hooking to or pulling a 5th wheel.

Honestly, I feel like a complete moron due to the fact that I am 44 years old and completely ignorant on this topic.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:34 PM   #5
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Are you sure you don't want a 1 ton with that? Dry at 14k and 1500 on the pin is pretty darn near close to your 17k max tow and 2300 max payload when you've got toys in the garage.

Dry is actually 9431 and loaded is 13,465. I will have a 1700 lb RZR in the garage (the garage has a max capacity of 2K)
and no more than 500 lbs crap in the rest of the unit at any given time. I always tow dry (no water in tanks in trailer). To me it seems dumb to tow water at 8 lbs per gallon unless diesel fuel becomes free sometime in the near future. LOL


I just can't see the toy hauler ever going over 12K.


And after it's all said and done, if a 3500 is needed, I am a service director for 2 different Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealerships and can trade for a 3500 pretty easily. Only reason a 2500 is in the driveway now is the ability to drive through car washes and my lube techs not raising hell anytime I need my tires rotated. LOL
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:39 PM   #6
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Dry is actually 9431 and loaded is 13,465. I will have a 1700 lb RZR in the garage (the garage has a max capacity of 2K)
Yeah.. sorry 'bout that. I missed the 14k "gross weight" the first read through.

Have fun with your RZR!
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Yeah.. sorry 'bout that. I missed the 14k "gross weight" the first read through.

Have fun with your RZR!

Thank you! We love our RZR and really enjoy rock bouncing with it. We bought a 27RR toy hauler 6 weeks ago and it makes it so much nicer being able to go places for 2-3 days at a time! Now I can get some seat time in before the comp starts and get some good lines figured out. We love our 27RR, just wish there was more of it to love hence the 351THSS 5'er.


Now I just have to figure out which hitch I need to buy.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:45 PM   #8
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At this point I have no clue. I 'assume' a 15K hitch will be sufficient due to the fact that max CVGW is 14K. Do I need a 'slider'? What does a slider do? DO I need a 'air' hitch? It 'appears' there are about 1000 options for a hitch and I don't know crap about hooking to or pulling a 5th wheel.

Honestly, I feel like a complete moron due to the fact that I am 44 years old and completely ignorant on this topic.
First off you are not a moron just because you are trying to learn something new to you.

Second, do you need a slider?

Several members here with the same size bed as you have say they get along fine with out it, others say better to have it and not need it I am of this school.

Air pin hitch, with what you are going to pull I suggest one it will make the ride better.

Something like this perhaps.

Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1116 - 21,000 lbs Lippert Components Fifth Wheel King Pin LC155943
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I have a reese 15k. It does the job with my fiver (actual scaled weight 12,380/gvwr 13,700). That said, I get a lot of chucking going down the road. I have heard both the pullrite and the b&w hitches are nice. Only thing is, I'm not sure if either will or won't fit with the ram factory prep. I have a long bed and have been glad to have it when trying to park in a really tight campground. A shorter bed without a slider and I would have hit my cab.
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:03 AM   #10
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Curt Q16 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch for Ram Towing Prep Package - Dual Jaw - 16,000 lbs Curt Fifth Wheel C16520-16021


Is this adequate enough for what I need to do? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


the Mopar unit is below and 400.00 ish more $.


http://www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel/...BWRVK3600.html
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You first need to understand if your 5ver is one of the new noses and will clear the cab in a tight radius turn. If not, then you will need a slider. I have a pull right and I went that route b/c it slides as you turn. No need to get out and un-latch so it will slide and then latch back. I am glad I went the extra dollars as I have been in some tight turns just driving to my destination. I would also go with an 18000lb.
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You first need to understand if your 5ver is one of the new noses and will clear the cab in a tight radius turn. If not, then you will need a slider. I have a pull right and I went that route b/c it slides as you turn. No need to get out and un-latch so it will slide and then latch back. I am glad I went the extra dollars as I have been in some tight turns just driving to my destination. I would also go with an 18000lb.
Good to know! Thank you! The new 5ver is a 2016 model Puma Unleashed 351THSS.
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Of the two you linked I'd pick the Curt because of the way the jaws lock.
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:42 AM   #14
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The Op is going to need a slider. his RV is not a clearance nose. The pull rite has a dual jaw that wraps 360.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:28 AM   #15
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'asquared'.... quoted "I get a lot of chucking going down the road."

'gilwilliams101'..... You may find this interesting as well.


On a trip we traveled last year we took a road that caused a lot of 'chucking'.
The wife and I looked at each other and saw the effect the 'chucking motion' had on us riding in the cab of the truck...Seeing each other 'jiggling' to the 'rhythm of the road'...we started laughing...

However, it was extremely uncomfortable it was not for too many miles.

It was enough to realize that we were going to do something about it.

This is from one of my previous posts:

"After my 1st (30 day) trip with my new TrailAir Tri-Glide I am very Happy to report it did everything and more I expected it would.
No more chucking, smooth starts and stops, harsh road dips and bumps cushioned nicely by the air-bag... (as seen in the rear view mirror).

I did a little test by placing some 'loose' items throughout the trailer, on the table, counters and in some cabinets..... normally with the stock pin box even the shortest trip would have sent these things flying.
With the TrailAir Tri-Glide "all" items I set in place for the test remained in place with little or no movement from where I put them.

The ride was much more comfortable in the truck.
The trailer and truck had to have had less stress from road impacts as well
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Our Wildcat (GVWR 11980) is not quite as heavy as yours and I have a dual pivot 16,000 Hijacker.
My TV has an 8ft bed and the DRW seems to help stabilize the ride nicely.

BUT... we really Love the new pin box....world of difference !

Hope this helps

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I have a SWB GMC 2500HD with a SuperGlide hitch. It's a mechanical autoslide hitch. Just about impossible to screw up or hit the cab. Also added a MorRyde hitch to the pin box to take out the chucking (jerking every time you hit a pavement joint). My 5r has a GVWR just over 14k. Traded a Dodge Cummins dually for the GMC Duramax. No regrets, and no problem with weight.
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So the moral of the story is that I must have a 'slide' hitch to be able to turn the truck 90* to the trailer and NOT have the trailer hit the cab of the truck?


The slide hitches automatically slide everything towards the tailgate when making a turn to avoid contact between the trailer and the cab of truck?
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We have the 5th Airborne pin with sidewinder hitch on a Salem Hemisphere QBUD and a Reese 16k hitch in the truck bed. No problems with this set up.


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I have the same truck. I use a Demco HiJacker 18K automatic slider. Tweety's has them for $1139.00 with free shipping. With a 6'4" bed you should definitely use a slider
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So the moral of the story is that I must have a 'slide' hitch to be able to turn the truck 90* to the trailer and NOT have the trailer hit the cab of the truck?
Pretty well summed up.

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The slide hitches automatically slide everything towards the tailgate when making a turn to avoid contact between the trailer and the cab of truck?
The Pull Rite does and there are others out there.
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