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Old 05-21-2016, 05:16 PM   #1
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I'm submitting to the weight police!

I need some help with my weights. My wife is about to embark on a roughly 1000 mile round trip by herself and I want to make sure she will be OK with the TV I have now. TV is a 2014 f150. I vote that she uses a f250 but I'm not sure.








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Old 05-21-2016, 05:23 PM   #2
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I feel the F-250 being heavier will pull easier and less strain and fatigue on the driver.


Just my opinion.
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:58 PM   #3
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Is the F150 overweight though?

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You are really close if not over. Was the truck/trailer loaded for the trip? Full of gas and passengers and water/propane/clothes/food etc
You truck is not a Max Tow or Max cargo version of the truck based upon the CCC 1359 and the GVWR of 7200. What equipment does the truck have?

Your Truck hitch is above tongue weight.

What Trailer?
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:38 PM   #5
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While waiting for answers to B and B's questions, some would argue / contend that you are already over Rear GAWR. It seems that the WDH is about right; moving 360# of the 1000# of tongue weight - 260# to the steering axle and 140# to the trailer (40# scale deviation). I'm tired, so someone check my math. WW
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:44 PM   #6
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Xlt with 3:55 gears. Intergrated brake control. Stock goodyear wrangler 18 inch tire. The trailer weighs 7140, the truck was about 1/2, I do have the 36 gallon tank. For the first half of the trip it'll just be her and her clothes which are 200 lbs. Her second half of the trip she will pickup 3 or 4 passengers weighing around 300 a more experienced driver will drive. She drove today with the f150 and seemed to handle it pretty good. They plan on getting the necessities near the venue and will have to leave everyday to get water. Always keeping the weight to a minimum.

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Old 05-21-2016, 08:01 PM   #7
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Front end with the wdh is 37.50 without 37.25. 40psi in all of the tires. A higher rated tire is an option. The trailer is a 279rbs. Click image for larger version

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Old 05-21-2016, 08:39 PM   #8
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XLT is trim package not equipment Package. You are Over Weight and without knowing the equipment package like Factory Towing Pkg, type of hitch you are using etc.
What engine? V8 5 L or 5.4 L won't give you towing capacity you need a Ecoboost for that.

You are 7200 not 7650 which is Max tow. I assume you have passenger tires and the trailer will wag the truck down the sway and instability. Been there myself with the same truck weight you have. I did have a better factory hitch so the tongue weight was not an issue.

The minute you add 4 people they have stuff, this adds to overload situation. Experience drivers does not add Cargo Capacity.

If you have the F 250 use it.
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If a 250 is available, why ask? Just use the 250..
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My apologies. The truck is the ecoboost 3.5L 4x4. There is a better hitch? I had already thought about changing the tires.

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With the current set up and numbers provided and once you add those passengers, you will be over the GVWR of the truck by at least 60 lbs if nothing else is added.....I would not like to drive that set up....
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Looks to me that your in that "gray area" with numbers, that many people who RV run in. According to all the legal stickers you will be over weighted, but yet still below some max axle and max tire ratings. It doesn't make it right but you will not be alone when running down the road like this. Many people run close on there limits and say it feels fine so they go with it. Ultimately it's your choice.
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sgt, I was traveling but now have my laptop and my simple calculator. My vote is that you will be fine and have a margin for safety at every axle; with the numbers you posted (pictures are worth 1000 words)... with WDH... your front and rear axles are below their GAWR rating: steering by 430# and drive 210# below; with gross weight is 920# under. There is no reason to believe even without knowing that gross combined and trailer weights that you are exceeding them. Plus, the eBoost has more than enough torque to pull the heck out of it. I would rather pull with the F-150 eco-beast than an f-250 gasser. If you can set your brake controller to a heavy setting, do it.
I said you were moving 360# from the rear axle with the WDH, it could be like 400# depending on the scale deviation. By the way, your tongue weight ratio with WDH is 8.4%... I would be tinkled pink with those numbers... have fun and enjoy your summer.
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"Gross weight 920 under" ... Back to the calculator Wolf.

The truck will be right on or just over the GVWR and RAWR after her pickup of passengers. Will everything be fine, more than likely.


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"Gross weight 920 under" ... Back to the calculator Wolf.

The truck will be right on or just over the GVWR and RAWR after her pickup of passengers. Will everything be fine, more than likely.


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oops... had my 2500 data in one of the fields. With TW rear is over, you all are right. I need to find another "career". My apologies to Sgt.
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Xlt with 3:55 gears. .

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The F250 is going to have a lower rearend ratio.. which will be a big benefit when towing..
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I appreciate all of the help. I found out today that she'll pull the empty TT to Arkansas and then it'll be pulled by a f350. I guess we are dodging a bullet here. If I were able to go on this trip with her I'd pull it all the way to Rocklahoma! Looks like I have a F250 in my future.

I do have a question though. I see ecoboosts pulling 5ers all the time. Surely those 5ers are heavier than mine, right? Maybe I just need to get a 5er.

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Your Ecco Boost with a 1359 payload with a 200 lbs person and 250 lbs hitch only nothing else in the truck:

You're adding approximately 450 lbs. to the truck. You have 909 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 3,636 - 4,545 lbs.

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The ecoboosts you see are HD with max tow and rated much higher than your truck. Many of them are still running over payload but owners have chosen to do so.

As shown above you are overweight. It is up to you if you want yo upgrade and be within weight or not. We can only answer based on the data provided. Personally, I have towed overweight and based on the experience I had in the mountains of NC and,VA, I will never tow overweight again. I am the wife and I drive our rig 98% of the time. I would not let my DH drive with the weights you show but again, that is me not you.
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