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Old 01-17-2019, 01:20 PM   #1
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Is my f150 enough?

I’m looking into buying a Salem fsx 260rt toy hauler. The tt weighs in empty at #4800 and has a gvwr #7610 with a tongue rating at #610 and is 28ft bumper to bumper.

I have a 2014 super cab 5.0 with 3.55 gears. I believe my payload was #1540+/- a few lbs and according to the chart That I saw I have a #7800 tow rating. Off the top of my head I can’t remember gvwr.

As for for now I would be hauling a Yamaha grizzly in it most of the time full of water 38gal. And am looking at a blue ox wdh. Its just me and the wife (no kids).

I am looking for for a real world answer if this is going to be a good combination or should I be waiting more capable truck.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:27 PM   #2
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If you don't have all the numbers, you can't calculate it.


if total truck weight + trailer, hitch, load is less than GVWR, you are good.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:38 PM   #3
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Given your truck has the right tow package, the trailer will likely have a 800lbs tongue weight when loaded with 2 batteries and 2 propane bottles. Add another 100 for the trailer hitch and maybe another 150 of water (8.35 x 38= 317 spread between the tongue and axle).

800+100+150=1050. If your payload is 1540, that's basically going to limit you to you and a passenger plus some gear.

If you can stay within those parameters on loading your truck very light, your truck could pull the trailer.

To know your exact payload, hit the truck scale with a full tank of fuel and you in the truck. Take the scale slip and subtract it from the list GVWR for your truck and that is your actual available payload.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:43 PM   #4
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The Grizzly and the water will add about 1,000 lbs plus another 1,000 just to be safe and you're looking at towing about 7,000 lbs. If you have 15% tongue weight, that's 1050 lbs.

While it looks like you're in the ballpark for that truck, payload is going to be close.

As JD said, get the real numbers off the truck and we can go from there.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:49 PM   #5
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Gcwr is 13500
Gvwr is 7350
Tow is 7800
Curb is 5461
And the payload advertised is 2,060 but the sticker inside the door says 1540

It has a tow package with integrated brake controller, tranny and oil cooler.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:50 PM   #6
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First, Welcome from MN!! there are lots of very knowledgeable people here who can help answer just about all of your questions

Second, there should be a sticker on either your drivers door, or the door jamb that has your trucks info on it. you will want to verify your axle ratio, i was told i had 3.55 gears, after checking, i found i had 3.73 . either post your stickers info or a picture of your sticker and someone will be happy to help calculate with you.

Edit: you beat me to posting the numbers
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:56 PM   #7
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I’ll double check my sticker when I get back to my truck but unfortunately I know I have a 3.55 and I’m almost sure I’m in the ballpark on the other numbers
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Gcwr is 13500
Gvwr is 7350
Tow is 7800
Curb is 5461
And the payload advertised is 2,060 but the sticker inside the door says 1540

It has a tow package with integrated brake controller, tranny and oil cooler.
NEVER believe advertised payload capacities. They are specific to each vehicle, depending on configuration and trim levels.
The 1540 number is specific to your truck. Sounds like you have some bling in the truck.

And is the tow package the Max Tow package?
My less bling 2014 F150 SCREW 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost with Max Tow package, has a payload capacity of 1828lbs.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:14 PM   #9
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You're going to be kinda close, but looks like you'll be ok. If you have easy access to the RV you're interested in, go take a look at the yellow weights sticker. It's usually in or near the door. Those are usually pretty accurate "as it left the factory" weights. Then you can see just how close it would be.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:20 PM   #10
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I think you're really pushing the limits of your truck there.

I don't feel good towing anywhere near max capacity as anything that is ran at those limits is bound to fail. However, to each his own.

If the vehicle is new and you're the type to trade off every few years then maybe you can make it work. If you're like me and keep things for a while and like to have things paid off then it's going to be difficult to maintain.

I used to pull my 6600lb (dry), 7200lb (wet/loaded/camper with my Escalade (7800lb towing capacity). It didn't go well. Even though the numbers worked i was wearing things out quickly. I did upgrades galore to try and make things better but at the end of the day I came to the realization that it was just too much.

I now pull that camper with an F350 6.0 Powerstroke. The truck doesn't skip a beat and pulls that camper with no issues (and gets double the fuel mileage my Escalade did when towing). No more white knuckle driving for me.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:24 PM   #11
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Should work fine, close but should be fine.. I wouldnt get a bigger truck for that wieght.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:20 PM   #12
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As per requested. There’s not much bling. It’s a xlt with leather and a premium center consol, that’s about it
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Your owners manual will have the GVWR for your truck. You'll need that first.
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Your owners manual will have the GVWR for your truck. You'll need that first.
His sticker says 7350
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I guarantee that I’ve pulled way more than the accepted weight of the truck, I’m not bragging about it but I have. I have LT tires and air bags (which I’m not trying to use to add carrying capacity). It’s just I want to be sure this is the right decision before I shell out the money
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As someone who pulls similar weights with a 2016 f150 You will be very close to limits and likely over on payload. I dont have a toy hauler so tongue weight will be different for you depending on the load. I have to be careful packing or I go over rear axle weights on the truck even tuning the WDH correctly. I had sway issues that it took time to address. I still have to be careful with weight but no more sway.

Even if you are within weights be prepared for a few upgrades one of which will be suspension enhancements of some kind to keep it level and if you have P rated tires I would swap those as well.

I plan to upgrade but good used trucks just started to become available because I wanted the extra cab space in the 2017s.
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I’m not apposed to buying a 3/4 truck later this year but it’s not in the cards right now (wife is finishing nursing school). However I was at the national Cleveland rv show and locked in a good deal on this camper and the dealership is giving me a great deal for a trade-in on my old 1
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I guarantee that I’ve pulled way more than the accepted weight of the truck, I’m not bragging about it but I have. I have LT tires and air bags (which I’m not trying to use to add carrying capacity). It’s just I want to be sure this is the right decision before I shell out the money
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I’m not apposed to buying a 3/4 truck later this year but it’s not in the cards right now (wife is finishing nursing school). However I was at the national Cleveland rv show and locked in a good deal on this camper and the dealership is giving me a great deal for a trade-in on my old 1

Honestly, with the mods to your F150, awareness to trailer weight and truck capacities, AND the willingness to upgrade to a heavier truck in the next couple years, I'd say go for it....with caution.
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His sticker says 7350
My mistake, I meant GCWR, should be around 14,000lbs.
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