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Old 11-21-2022, 10:38 PM   #1
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Is the 250 better than a 350

Comparing the F 250 to the F 350 SWD both 6.2 with 3:73 gears. The 250 is rated higher
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:32 AM   #2
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Door sticker is always the best way to determine weight.
Good chance they forgot to change the total weight on the 350.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:33 AM   #3
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My guess is these are designed for cargo not towing capacity.

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Super Duty Pickup Model Max. Payload Max. Payload Configuration
F-250 SRW 4,260 lbs. 4x2/regular cab/long bed/10,000 lbs. GVWR
F-350 SRW 4,960 lbs. 4x4/regular cab/long bed/11,400 lbs. GVWR
F-350 DRW 7,850 lbs. 4x4/regular cab/long bed/14,000 lbs. GVWR
F-450 DRW 6,210 lbs. 4x2/regular cab/long bed/14,000 lbs. GVWR
In the pictured data they both have the same GCWR of 19,300 pounds. Slightly lower (100 - 200 pounds) but right about 13,000 pounds plus or minus max towing capacity tells me the F350 is simply heavier.

Properly equipped F150 (one fifty) with a GCVW of 18,300 pounds can tow pretty much the same trailer weights (13,000 pounds) probably because it's the lightest of those three.

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Old 11-22-2022, 05:35 PM   #4
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I would get 4:30 gears.
I had 2011 F350 with 3:73 gears and it struggled with my camper.
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Old 11-22-2022, 05:52 PM   #5
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I would get 4:30 gears.
I had 2011 F350 with 3:73 gears and it struggled with my camper.
yes a 4:30 gear tows better but you lose out on mileage (a bit, but towing a trailer may not matter). A F350 is a one ton axle while the F250 is a 3/4 ton axle so a little heaver duty (and heavier). may have beefier brakes for towing. weight wise the F350 will get less mpg than the F250
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Old 11-22-2022, 06:14 PM   #6
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yes a 4:30 gear tows better but you lose out on mileage (a bit, but towing a trailer may not matter). A F350 is a one ton axle while the F250 is a 3/4 ton axle so a little heaver duty (and heavier). may have beefier brakes for towing. weight wise the F350 will get less mpg than the F250
It’s pretty much a wash. We have 2 f350’s that are ranch trucks that we use to haul feed as well as livestock and anything else heavy. With identical 40ft gooseneck trailers, the one with 4:30 will get better mileage pulling a full load (8mpg) while the 3:73 will get 6-7mpg…and not pull as strong. However, running empty the 3:73 will get 16mpg while the 4:30 will get 14mpg.

So if the truck is going to be used 40% of the time or more pulling the trailer, go for the lower gears and buy the F350. If not, go for the higher gears. And I’d still say go with the F350

The difference in the ratings between the f250 and f350 is the weight of the truck it’s self.
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Old 11-22-2022, 07:53 PM   #7
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If I was ford I probably wouldn’t offer the 350 with the 3:73 rear. As for brakes when I worked oriellys they were the same brakes. If I believe correctly in most newer say since 2000 most reared were labeled by the gearing so a 3:73 in a 350 same as the 373 in the 250. I also pretty sure the front axles are the same. Quick search validates thi but very quick search that gave the results I was looking for so I didn’t find need to dig deeper
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If I was ford I probably wouldn’t offer the 350 with the 3:73 rear. As for brakes when I worked oriellys they were the same brakes. If I believe correctly in most newer say since 2000 most reared were labeled by the gearing so a 3:73 in a 350 same as the 373 in the 250. I also pretty sure the front axles are the same. Quick search validates thi but very quick search that gave the results I was looking for so I didn’t find need to dig deeper
Your correct same calipers, rotors, pads on the 250 or 350.
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You don't state what you are going to pull with the truck. Total weight is generally meaningless as you run out of payload first. 4.30's and a 350 are a great combination.

If you are looking at a '23, the 6.2 is no longer available.
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Almost always, you'll run out of payload before you max out the towing capacity, so in that regard the 350 is going to give you a significant advantage. F250 probably will ride a little softer and as others mentioned, 4.30 gears are good option - had them in my 250 and imo that is the way to go.

But - you are looking at new the 6.2 motor is no more (as much as I liked it). XL's can get a 6.8, which is the same block as the 7.3. Reviews on the 7.3 are that is a great motor. Really good torque numbers for a gas engine.

Figure out what you need for payload (tongue/pin weight) now and in the future and use that to decide between 250 & 350.
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You don't state what you are going to pull with the truck. Total weight is generally meaningless as you run out of payload first. 4.30's and a 350 are a great combination.

If you are looking at a '23, the 6.2 is no longer available.


Correct for both 250 and 350
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:10 PM   #12
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Is the 250 better than a 350

My current 2019 STX F250 6.2 has 200 pounds more payload than my 2016 350 6.7 did, but basically 4000 pounds less total.

Currently towing ElkRidge 33 bhs listed dry weight of just under 11k but hitch weight 2100 . Only pulled basically 350 miles with this current setup. ( not counting the trip home from warranty work). While it wasn’t my Ram 3500 DWD Highoutput Cummins. Truck did great conditions were perfect for towing no wind mild temperatures. Got 8.3 mpg not expecting to see those numbers or conditions often.
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Old 11-24-2022, 08:08 PM   #14
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Better for what? The pictures posted have the type of towing cut off--Conventional or Fifthwheel/Gooseneck. The only difference physically between the 250 and 350 is the addition of the auxiliary springs at the rear axle. That alone wouldn't account for the reduction for the 350. It could be something weird in the J2807 method, or just the smaller size of the 6.2. Once you get into the bigger engines the derated GVWR of the 250 begins to limit the towing capacity. As stated above Fifthwheel/Gooseneck towing is going to limited by pin weight on the 250, showing generally larger numbers for the 350.
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Here's a little light reading for you from Ford.

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Old 11-24-2022, 09:51 PM   #16
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The frame on my truck has a sticker identifying it as the short wheel base for the 350 and 250. So pretty sure the frames are same.
On my way to the hill country , I weighed the truck trailer combo, I am over by 360 pounds, but I had full fresh water tank and was up to just over1/3 black and grey tanks. I had whole family in truck full tank of gas 19860. I don’t normally travel full tanks but didn’t want to hook up hose this trip not sure of weather but I wanted to shower and flush. I usually only carry enough for roadside flush. I will also be getting rid of my tool box. Uneven sharp turns could be bad so bye bye tool box. I should be able to drop below the 19500 easily.
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Old 11-26-2022, 10:19 AM   #17
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Is the 250 better than a 350

My apologies I thought I was posting in a different thread, I deleted and moved my post to the thread I thought I was posting in. If all goes well I will get trl to winterized stored then when I park the truck I will crawl under and snap pic of label I saw stating the frame was for 250 or 350
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