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Old 02-20-2018, 02:36 PM   #21
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The Fram Ultra is a very good filter. Wix / Napa filters (same filter) are very good. If you can find a Baldwin filter for your application, that would be another excellent choice. I have a strong preference for Donaldson filters for my diesel stuff.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:47 PM   #22
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I leave all filters up to the Chevy dealer for my 6.6 duramax, including for the Allison trans’ spin on external filter.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:30 PM   #23
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Saving money on oil or filters will cost you in the end.
Use what the manufacturer says.
Fram is the worst.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:48 PM   #24
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Is there a reason for not recommending MOPAR filters? I notice there is only 1 comment from a reader that like myself, uses OEM filters. I assumed that if they are good enough for the factory and dealers, they should be good enough for me to use when I change my own oil.
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:34 PM   #25
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Look up "best oil filters" on You Tube. Fram is bottom of barrel.
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:46 PM   #26
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Is there a reason for not recommending MOPAR filters? I notice there is only 1 comment from a reader that like myself, uses OEM filters. I assumed that if they are good enough for the factory and dealers, they should be good enough for me to use when I change my own oil.
I will use the MOPAR filters from time to time.
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:11 PM   #27
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Only motorcraft filters for my 6.7
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:26 PM   #28
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:40 PM   #29
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I believe the Mopar filters are Fleetguard for Cummins trucks and Hastings for gas engine. Its like many things in the automotive business, they have their vendors. Motorcraft has their Diesel filters made by Racor which is a division of Parker Hannifin hydraulics, Purolator makes some of their gas engine filters which was bought out by Mann.
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:05 PM   #30
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FRAM is fine!
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FRAM is fine!


Really!!!

Cut a Fram filter apart and you can see the difference between a quality filter and a cheap filter. Also take a micrometer and measure the hole diameter in the metal plate. See if you have the same size and number of holes in the Fram filter as a quality filter.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:56 PM   #32
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After an experience that I had some years back, I would probably utilize Cummins/Fleetguard wherever possible. I was working for the Detroit Diesel/MTU engine distributor and one of our customers had a catastrophic engine failure on a large (1800 HP) MTU industrial engine that he was running with Fleetguard filters. When we tore the engine down, we found the failure was a lack of lubrication due to plugged oil passages in the crankshaft. At some point, MTU had made a change in the filter design that Fleetguard was unaware of. Due to the design change, the Fleetguard filter had failed, sending filter media throughout the oil passages, resulting in engine damage in excess of $ 90,000.00. Cummins/Fleetguard picked up the entire tab for the engine repair.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:02 PM   #33
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Be aware that in some cases, the filter manufacturer may be someone different from the marketing organization - i.e. some Fram filters may actually have been produced by the same company that produces Wix, Donaldson, or Baldwin filters, etc. This is just a function of volume and cost to manufacture versus cost to purchase. To the best of my knowledge, very little (if any) of the Cummins/Fleetguard product line comes from 3rd party manufacturers.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:08 PM   #34
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I have been using Fram oil filters but need some advice. My choice may be not a good one for my diesel
The studies I have seen rate the Mobile 1 (don't know the number) and Baldwin B7449 oil filters the highest. Mobile 1 is significantly more expensive.

I work in the Oil industry offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. Every company that owns diesel engines which run 24/7 powering things like generators and compressors use Baldwin filters.

Their income is interrupted by down time and the longevity of their engines is their paramount concern. They use Baldwin filters because they are the best they can find.

I use Baldwin filters on my engine oil and both filters on my FASS 95 Lift Pump.
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:55 AM   #35
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Horizontal filters

Any filters that are mounted horizontally will have a valve that keeps the dirty lubricant from flowing back into the pump and pan. This is often not included on the cheaper filters.
AC Delco, has a rubber backflow preventer. I put a nail next to that when draining the used filter, upon an oil change. Otherwise the oil stays in the filter when it's upside down.
The last Fram that I cut open had cardboard, glued to more paper. Never bought another one.
AC Delco, Motorcraft and Mopar are all safe on the engine they were designed for.
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Forget the orange Fram oil filters.

Go with the OEM AC Delco. You might pay a little more, search online and you can find them at lower cost. My 2002 Sierra 2500HD LB7 has 261,000 miles on it and going strong.

I change the oil @ 5,000 to 7,500 miles, religiously. But that's just me.

I see it as cheap insurance to protect my engine.

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Old 02-22-2018, 10:54 PM   #37
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Forget the orange Fram oil filters.

Go with the OEM AC Delco. You might pay a little more, search online and you can find them at lower cost. My 2002 Sierra 2500HD LB7 has 261,000 miles on it and going strong.

I change the oil @ 5,000 to 7,500 miles, religiously. But that's just me.

I see it as cheap insurance to protect my engine.

Cheers--

X2 Religiously at 5000 intervals for me. Makes it Easy to tell when too, 5, 10, 15, etc.

I use Baldwin filters though.

I work in the oil industry in the Gulf of Mexico. The companies who own and operate diesel engines there to power generators, compressors, etc use almost exclusively Baldwin. Their income is dependent on the reliability of their engines and they choose Baldwin as the best they can find. Not all that expensive either.

I think Oil and filters are cheap.............Engines and mechanical components, Not So Much
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:30 AM   #38
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Lots of digs at Fram. Problem is, there are different varieties of Fram. The gold Fram Ultra is a totally different critter than the base orange Fram. Superior in quality and rivals most anything on the market. That has been shown in independent testing. I don't use them, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't. I just use a brand that I have trusted for many years.

As for how often you change the oil, just go with the OEM recommendation. There are many who take diesel oil changes double or triple the 5000 mile interval that is being recommended here with nary a problem. Even on my little 2006 2.8L Jeep Liberty diesel, I changed it at about 11,000 miles, and it is now in the hands of my son who does likewise. My larger diesels never see an oil change before 20,000 miles. One of them just turned over 800,000 miles and still runs as good as the day I bought it new and has never had a major repair. Same injectors, turbo, etc as the day it was new. Uses about 1 qt of oil in 11,000 miles. Today's oils are light years ahead of what they were a decade or two ago. Just follow the OEM change recommendation and enjoy.

Check with major oil industry people. There is such a thing as changing oil too soon. Certain additives in motor oil do not reach their full effectiveness at protecting the engine if the oil is changed too soon.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:36 AM   #39
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For my 05 Cummins, I order Baldwin oil and fuel filters as a package deal from Amazon. I change them both, along with the oil, every 10k miles.
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great info here
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum.../forum_summary
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