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Old 08-11-2019, 10:28 PM   #1
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OK, i know this is a volatile post, looking at buying a 5er dry weight ( i know through that out ASAP) 8700 lb pin weight 1275 length is 34 feet. going to have to upgrade the TV only interested in GM products, would you get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton for this 5er. also would you go with Gas or diesel. whatever we buy it will be used i really can't see investing 50 to 60+ in a new truck
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A new truck would be 80*. My 4 year old one ton diesel was $53. Need realistic expectations.
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OK, i know this is a volatile post, looking at buying a 5er dry weight ( i know through that out ASAP) 8700 lb pin weight 1275 length is 34 feet. going to have to upgrade the TV only interested in GM products, would you get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton for this 5er. also would you go with Gas or diesel. whatever we buy it will be used i really can't see investing 50 to 60+ in a new truck
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:53 PM   #3
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If you are looking at gas engines and have no plans to move to a larger trailer, 3/4 ton. If looking at diesels or planning to upgrade, do a lot of mountain driving, 1 ton. The diesel in a 3/4 eats up a lot of payload capacity, engine is 700 lbs. heavier than the gas motor. Look @ the drivers side door stickers. Many of the gas 3/4 tons have more payload than the diesels. The new 2020 Fords have the new bigger gas engine w/ the 10 speed transmission. It was designed to bridge the gap between the 6.2 gas and the 6.7 diesel in power and price. I looked for 4 months, but found a 1 ton for $1500 more than the same 3/4 ton.
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3/4 ton diesel run out of payload fast ... so gas 3/4 ton ... diesel or gas 1 ton ... watch for gearing for better max tow ... new 8/10 speed transmissions are good ... New 50-60,000 no problem with dealer incentive sales ... good luck
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Old 08-12-2019, 05:39 AM   #5
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Just sold my 2014 3/4 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab Diesel to my neighbor. He's pulling a 38' Montana with a 2000lb pin weight and 14,500 gross weight. He loves the power this one has over his 2004 3/4 extended cap Silverado that he sold. He put over 50,000 miles on his old truck pulling their Montana coast to coast. He never even considered a 1 ton or dually as he was completely satisfied with the 3/4 ton and how it handled the 5ver.
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:36 AM   #6
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found a 2015 3/4 ton gasser on carmax its a 6.0 says 301 hp and 333 lbs torque that really surprises me as my 1/2 ton has: 5.3L V-8 is SAE-certified at 355 horsepower (250 kW) and 383 lb.-ft. of torque, do you think the 3/4 ton numbers are misprint,
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Spec's I've seen on the 6.0 range from 322 - 360 Hp. 373 - 380 Torque. depending on what vehicle it's in.
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It's not simply a matter of HP and torque.

The 6.2 in my Escalade is 415 HP and 425 torque. However, it struggled to pull my 32.5' 7400 lb Rockwood. Not in HP and torque, but heat, suspension and transmission issues. A half-ton pick up truck isn't meant to deal with everything else.

I'm pretty confident I would have blown the Escalade up had I continued to drive it with the camper attached.
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Just sold my 2014 3/4 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab Diesel to my neighbor. He's pulling a 38' Montana with a 2000lb pin weight and 14,500 gross weight. He loves the power this one has over his 2004 3/4 extended cap Silverado that he sold. He put over 50,000 miles on his old truck pulling their Montana coast to coast. He never even considered a 1 ton or dually as he was completely satisfied with the 3/4 ton and how it handled the 5ver.
I agree on the 3/4 diesel being able to handle with no problem just depends on if OP wants to worry about what payload # is ... many will be fine not all ... just sold my 1st 5th wheel and owner has a brand new GMC Duramax diesel and I got a peek at his door sticker payload 2135 lbs with that 5th wheel he will be a little over payload and 3000 lbs under max tow ....
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My 1-ton Dually was cheaper to purchase and insure. Only drawback is the turning radius and the fact that I can't go through a drive through (unless it's a big one) or an Automatic Car Wash.

No issues with payload there. Love the truck. I'll be driving it 10 years from now and it'll see 500k plus before I sell it.
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Having a 3/4 ton gas, I believe having a diesel would have made the WV mountains more enjoyable to tow. I did limit my trips due to the declines. So, I would say get a diesel and get a 1 ton to give you the payload to move up if you desire. I think single or dual rear wheel depends on which 5'er you like.

I also would say, don't limit yourself to only GM products, unless you work for GM and get the discounts. I mean, this will be a big purchase so why not look at all your options?
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My 1-ton Dually was cheaper to purchase and insure. Only drawback is the turning radius and the fact that I can't go through a drive through (unless it's a big one) or an Automatic Car Wash.

No issues with payload there. Love the truck. I'll be driving it 10 years from now and it'll see 500k plus before I sell it.


I don’t know if you can still find a single rear wheel 3500 Duramax, but that would be one of my own considerations.
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New 2020 3/4 ton Chevy Diesels now have higher payload numbers. GVW is now over the previous 10,000 pound limit.
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I don’t know if you can still find a single rear wheel 3500 Duramax, but that would be one of my own considerations.
Yep, they're out there. Just test-drove a 2019 3500 Silverado SRW long bed with the D-max. Awesome truck but too pricey for my budget, even tho it was discounted several thousand from the sticker price. Guess I'll hang on to my 2011 'til I win the Lotto!
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I successfully pulled a slightly heaver 5th wheel with a 2500 Ram Hemi 2X4 with a 4:10 rear end. It was within all of the posted weight limits.
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I had a 2003 1500HD gas with 6.0L and pulled my 5er just fine then went to bigger 5er and moved to 06 D 2500 crew and pulled all over until 5er totaled. The truck, when i look on auto trader are being asked mid 20s. for the 06. I sold mine to help with getting the class c, but in 06 I paid 42 for it.
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Having a 3/4 ton gas, I believe having a diesel would have made the WV mountains more enjoyable to tow. I did limit my trips due to the declines. So, I would say get a diesel and get a 1 ton to give you the payload to move up if you desire. I think single or dual rear wheel depends on which 5'er you like.

I also would say, don't limit yourself to only GM products, unless you work for GM and get the discounts. I mean, this will be a big purchase so why not look at all your options?
the reason for GM only is in my long life i have had 6 GM trucks only had 1 problem out of 1 of them and warranty covered it, had 1 ford after a year of it being in the shop i took a bath and sold it, never again, and i really just dont care for dodge
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the reason for GM only is in my long life i have had 6 GM trucks only had 1 problem out of 1 of them and warranty covered it, had 1 ford after a year of it being in the shop i took a bath and sold it, never again, and i really just dont care for dodge

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Here we go!

NO he ask a question and i answered don't want to go down that road, it's simple i like GM products, i have friends who own fords and dodges and that's fine please don't let this get off track
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OK, i know this is a volatile post, looking at buying a 5er dry weight ( i know through that out ASAP) 8700 lb pin weight 1275 length is 34 feet. going to have to upgrade the TV only interested in GM products, would you get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton for this 5er. also would you go with Gas or diesel. whatever we buy it will be used i really can't see investing 50 to 60+ in a new truck
My trailer is just short of 10k loaded with about 1450 on the ball when we long haul. I pull it with a 3/4 ton 6.0 gas.

I could have written the check for a diesel same as the gas truck I bought...I don't want anything to do with the complexities of the modern diesel. I've had my setup up and down the Appalachians and we just returned from the black hills in SD. The truck works great...the motor temp gauge never moves...the transmission temp has never been above 185 and I don't spare the whip one bit.

If you want the diesel get a 1 ton srw.
If you want the gas get a 3/4 or 1 ton srw. The 6.0 is thirsty...the long bed with a larger fuel tank is the way to go for me. Some folks don't have the fortitude with a gas motor having to downshift or rev some...if you're one of those, skip the 6.0 gas truck.

You may be able to find a good deal on a 2019 truck because the new design 2020's are hitting the lot but don't take a 2020 for a spin if you're looking for a deal.

Good luck, new trucks are cool.
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