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Old 05-08-2021, 07:19 PM   #1
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Hello all! Me and my wife are new to the site and recently upgraded our camper from a Starcraft 26BH to a rockwood 2608BS. While my current truck (Chevy 1500 Z71) was just fine for the Starcraft it takes everything itís got to pull our new Rockwood. Fortunately we live in Ohio and itís flat as a pancake and we do a lot of local camping so the truck is not that big a deal for that. we would love to head out west and camp or even down south but both constitute mountainous drives and an upgrade in truck! Just wondering what type of truck others are pulling there TTs with that may be similar in size. I know every situation is different just trying to establish a starting point.
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Old 05-08-2021, 07:31 PM   #2
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Welcome from New Jersey, Depending on the trailer ,Many opt for 2500 on up,I had a Ram 1500 upgraded to the 2500 with better gears and peace of mind for my 2511s .
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:43 PM   #3
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Why not look at the 350/3500?
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:32 AM   #4
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Hello all! Me and my wife are new to the site and recently upgraded our camper from a Starcraft 26BH to a rockwood 2608BS. While my current truck (Chevy 1500 Z71) was just fine for the Starcraft it takes everything itís got to pull our new Rockwood. Fortunately we live in Ohio and itís flat as a pancake and we do a lot of local camping so the truck is not that big a deal for that. we would love to head out west and camp or even down south but both constitute mountainous drives and an upgrade in truck! Just wondering what type of truck others are pulling there TTs with that may be similar in size. I know every situation is different just trying to establish a starting point.
What is that 2608 gross weight rating ? My 2614 is 8600 and my halfton does great with it.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:27 AM   #5
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Welcome to the site. Where I grew up in Ohio it was very hilly (east) but visiting relatives in the western part...

A properly equipped half ton truck could keep you within the ratings if you are careful.

Considering your plan, a 2500/3500 truck from Ford/Chevy/Ram would make it a much easier task with the added bonus of having enough payload that you can use the bed of the truck while towing.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:48 AM   #6
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I agree with the last two post, a half ton truck should work. With that said what year is the truck. Each year the manufacturers keep adding more and more power. Even though itís an extreme example my 84 Bronco with the 5.8 made a whopping 139 hp at 3200rpm ( the 5.8 in the 250 and 350 made 150). The new Bronco makes 270 to 310 with half the size engine. How many miles do you have on the truck.

Do you have a WD hitch can make all the difference in the world. Not having all the weight on the bumper helps the truck a lot.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:10 AM   #7
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What is that 2608 gross weight rating ? My 2614 is 8600 and my halfton does great with it.
The gross weight is 8700. I do use a WD hitch and Iím running a 2013 Chevy Z71. Donít get me wrong the truck pulled the camper just fine throughout flat western Ohio but have been down to southern Ohio to Hocking Hills State park where you start getting into the Appalachian mountains thatís where I can feel the truck struggling on the inclines and those are just baby hills compared to what and where we want to go.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:45 AM   #8
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Not sure what your axle ratio is but a quick look ( if I saw correctly) athe 3:42 was best offered with the 5.3. Not the best for towing but it will get you there. You didnít mention how many miles. I would suggest a few upgrades to add power, and transmission cooler ( if you donít have one). Moderate upgrades can improve your power and economy but you still wonít be the first to the top but itís not a race take your time enjoy the ride.
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:09 AM   #9
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Do you think you will ever upgrade to a larger RV? If so, you may want to look at a 1 ton. If not, you may want to consider a 3/4 ton. My last TT was a 37' 9000 lb (empty) that I pulled with a 3500 Duramax dual rear wheel. While that was a bit of overkill it sure made towing easy and very stable.
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:49 AM   #10
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Look at the cargo capacity when considering trucks also. I have a 1/2 ton Ram that pulls our 23LB good. But the cargo capacity is only 1150 pounds. With passengers, tongue weight & fiberglass bed topper, I'm close to that before I put anything in the bed of the truck. I've been looking for a 3/4 ton but the prices right now are crazy!
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:22 PM   #11
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I would consider a Ford F150 with the 5.0 engine with a low rear end, (3.73) Heavy tow package. I would also be tempted for 2-$3K more to get the new 7.3 engine. I'm not a Eco boost fan.....check the price to see what turbo's cost to replace. The 5.0 with heavy tow package has ample tow weights and MOST IMPORTANT....Great Cargo Carry Capacity. That 5.0 has been around a long time and it's the engine that Ford Mechanics in a recent poll would buy for themselves.
Otherwise if money is no problem a F250 gas and otherwise drop another 10K and go diesel.........you would gain the engine brake that way.
Otherwise the ultimate long lived, dependable rock solid truck is a Toyota Tundra. That's what I have, the last one I had had 255K miles on it and didn't use a 1/2 QT of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes. Old fashioned but dependable!....kinda like me
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:36 PM   #12
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My advice would be to stick with your current truck until the truck market comes back down to earth.

The prices on new and used pickup trucks is out of sight. I am looking at pickups online right now and a used 2020 GMC 2500 at a local dealer with 1,600 miles is $63,000. Yipes!

Or there's a used crew cab 2015 GMC 2500 with 52,000 miles for $39,999.

New one ton trucks with some options are $80 and $90 thousand dollars. Holy cow!

I am seeing twelve year old one ton 2008 Dodge RAM diesel dually's like mine listed for $35-$38k and I only paid $42,000 for it new.

The market is very expensive right now so if you want to upgrade now, get out your wallet!

It may be a good time to accessorize your current truck and make do until the markets comes down a bit or you win the lottery.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:39 PM   #13
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Really look at how often you camp and how far you drive to work if daily driver. I had a Tundra pulling 7800 TT. It was fine in TX to Florida, tow 10K miles.. When we started going further north into Northern Arkansas and Georgie, not enough truck or brakes. Switched to a F-350 diesel, big difference and Much more relaxed towing experience. The engine brake is a big reason to w/diesel.
If you plan to stay below 10K in weigh, gas 250/2500. You get more stable platform w/ bigger brakes and a stronger frame. If considering diesel, go 350/3500 IMO. The only reason to consider a 1/2 ton w/ that trailer would be if you have a long drive to work w/ gas 3/4 ton and have crossed off ever going to a 5 th. wheel. That is the next step many of us have taken. I am now pulling 12K -37' 5 th wheel.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:00 PM   #14
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I have a Silverado 1500 with the 6.2L engine, 10 speed transmission and max trailering package and even with all that, I would not tow a trailer that long and heavy with it. That trailer is firmly in 3/4 ton territory, minimum.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:24 PM   #15
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My advice would be to stick with your current truck until the truck market comes back down to earth.

The prices on new and used pickup trucks is out of sight. I am looking at pickups online right now and a used 2020 GMC 2500 at a local dealer with 1,600 miles is $63,000. Yipes!

Or there's a used crew cab 2015 GMC 2500 with 52,000 miles for $39,999.

New one ton trucks with some options are $80 and $90 thousand dollars. Holy cow!

I am seeing twelve year old one ton 2008 Dodge RAM diesel dually's like mine listed for $35-$38k and I only paid $42,000 for it new.

The market is very expensive right now so if you want to upgrade now, get out your wallet!

It may be a good time to accessorize your current truck and make do until the markets comes down a bit or you win the lottery.
Here's the thing with the current market. Right now there is a shortage of new and used trucks. While that certainly makes it difficult to get much off the msrp of the new truck, the amount a used truck is going for is crazy high. I just traded in my 17 Chevy for 100 dollars more than I paid for it in 2017 new. Unbelievable...

I've certainly been able knock a considerably higher percentage off of a new trucks msrp in the past with careful shopping but I have never traded a vehicle that I bought new for more than I paid for it...until now.

It's 6 in one had and half a dozen in the other. Shop carefully and wisely.
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:36 PM   #16
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The gross weight is 8700. I do use a WD hitch and Iím running a 2013 Chevy Z71. Donít get me wrong the truck pulled the camper just fine throughout flat western Ohio but have been down to southern Ohio to Hocking Hills State park where you start getting into the Appalachian mountains thatís where I can feel the truck struggling on the inclines and those are just baby hills compared to what and where we want to go.
Have you checked you cargo capacity? Usually you run out of CC before you run out of tow capacity.

According to manufacturers specs you are probably well within the limits of a new 1/2 ton truck. The ecoboost can pull that trailer all day long even in the mtns. It has a torque curve similar to a diesel engine.

However, based on my experience you are at the limit of a 1/2 ton truck for comfortable driving, mainly braking in the mountains. The newer 1/2 ton trucks have a higher cargo capacity but I don't think they have any better brakes. If I bought that trailer I'd give it a try with my truck but would buy it knowing that I would probably want a 3/4 ton truck for that 9000 lb trailer.
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The gross weight is 8700. I do use a WD hitch and Iím running a 2013 Chevy Z71. Donít get me wrong the truck pulled the camper just fine throughout flat western Ohio but have been down to southern Ohio to Hocking Hills State park where you start getting into the Appalachian mountains thatís where I can feel the truck struggling on the inclines and those are just baby hills compared to what and where we want to go.
I understand your predicament. I had an F150 that towed my other trailer just fine. Then, I upgraded the trailer to a Rockwood 8335 with a front kitchen. It's weight was pushing 9500 lbs, and the truck transmission did NOT like the hills in VT and shuddered from a dead stop. We also want to take trips out west, and I knew the F150 that was loaded with all the best towing specs would have trouble in the mountains. I started looking for a 7.3 godzilla engine, but thanks to covid, the delivery times were 6-8 months. So, I started looking at diesel, and ended up with a F350 6.7 powerstroke. It was expensive, BUT oh my can this puppy tow! Now, I have no reservations about towing in the mountains . A gasser will lose up to 20% towing capacity in mountains, while a diesel laughs at the mountains. The bed handles anything I want to put in it too. If you can go with diesel, or the 7.3 godzilla engine, do it. You WON'T regret it.
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:02 PM   #18
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Depending if you want to upgrade to a bigger camper in the future. A F250 powerstroke with a 10 speed trans would pull any hill out west with what camper you have now, I live in Ohio also and went to my local dealer and ordered my new 2021 F 450 crew cab dually 4x4 powerstroke with rear cameras, spray in bedliner and a 32.5K fifth wheel hitch and got it for $63100 out the door and a 8 year 0 Dedutible warranty which I think is a great deal for the price of trucks today. I ordered first of October and got it a week before christmas. The fifth wheel I pull is a 20000 Lb 43 ft Riverstone Legacy and it pull like a dream.
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:16 PM   #19
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If youíre looking for a diesel good luck trying to find one at a reasonable price. Walked into a dealer, looked at the prices of new and used and walked right back to my truck and left. No thanks with those prices
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Time to grab a beer and sit back :-)
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