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07-10-2014, 02:46 PM
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PPST OGCDG
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Manual Transmission R.I.P.
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07-10-2014, 03:35 PM
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Jack of All Trades
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Stillwater, OK
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I sure miss my 6 speed; however, with the newer autos and the use of the exhaust brake (poor man's jake), I'm getting used to towing with the auto. It is just shame how much an after market tranny tune can improve shifting while towing and keep the temps down and yet the factories still keep pumping out horribly tuned, de-rated, shifting patterns geared toward EPA and warranty bull hockey. I wasn't so much in love with the auto in this '09 until the minute after I updated the TCM with an H&S tranny tune. Holy cow is it night and day.
RIP manuals. I'm going to miss teaching my kids how to drive one in 10 years.
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07-10-2014, 03:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 9,839
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MEH!
When I ordered my F250 you could still get a five speed manual but truth be told I was just flat out tired of shifting so I bought my first truck with an automatic.
Pulling the trailer it has been great, one pedal makes it go the other makes it stop, simple.
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07-10-2014, 04:43 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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We are HUGE manual transmission fans at our house. We went 40 years without an automatic. But towing with a manual is a pain in the butt in rolling hills. Upshift down the hill, downshift up the hill, . . repeat over and over. And forget about using the cruise control. Or . . how about backing into a tricky campsite? I quickly realized that an automatic is the way to go when towing.
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07-10-2014, 04:51 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
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I like manual shifting......can't call me shiftless.  I feel like I have some control over my vehicles. I have a manual in my Jeep Wrangler, and the missus has a manual in her Accord. The only vehicle that I have an automatic is in my truck.  And I would rather have a manual in that. It sometimes shifts when I don't want it to. 
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07-10-2014, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
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I'm with Mtnguy and have a manual in my accord. Gives me a lot more feel of what's going on when turning hot laps at the track. Bad part is with Honda only pairing 7500/yr with a V6, only had to wait 4 months for my color and options.
The good news: teenaged daughter does not want to drive my car because it's a stick! Still think I'm getting her a moped!
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07-10-2014, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pfafftown NC
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No manual shift? Really? Next thing you are going to tell me is that they will only make Televisions that have remote controls. 
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07-10-2014, 10:14 PM
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Oklahoma Proud
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: central OK
Posts: 2,784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evereddie
No manual shift? Really? Next thing you are going to tell me is that they will only make Televisions that have remote controls. |
Lol!!!
Even semi's are getting more autos now, suppose to help with driver shortages, I've heard.
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07-11-2014, 08:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
We are HUGE manual transmission fans at our house. We went 40 years without an automatic. But towing with a manual is a pain in the butt in rolling hills. Upshift down the hill, downshift up the hill, . . repeat over and over. And forget about using the cruise control. Or . . how about backing into a tricky campsite? I quickly realized that an automatic is the way to go when towing.
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With enough power at speed you don't have to worry about all the shifting.
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07-11-2014, 10:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
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I sure miss the manual crank starters and those acetylene headlights too. Cruise control and power windows? They're for wimps. Don't even get me started on air conditioning...
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07-11-2014, 11:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
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Yep- miss that block of ice in the window.
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2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7 "Clifford"
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07-14-2014, 07:15 AM
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Jack of All Trades
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Stillwater, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Lol!!!
Even semi's are getting more autos now, suppose to help with driver shortages, I've heard.
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The way I see it...if someone can't handle shifting their own gears....they have no business herding a #90,000 truck down the road.
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07-14-2014, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Franklin County, MO
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When my DW got out of grad school and started her teaching career in the late 1970s, she was going to buy her first-ever new car, and it had to be a convertible. Of course, they weren't making American convertibles at that time, so she bought a bright yellow 1979 MGB. She had never driven a manual transmission, so she made the salesman teach her how to drive it before she would buy it (now, there was a guy who must have REALLY needed to make a sale). 
Fast-forward 36 years: Retired, teaching career behind her, but we still have the MG. We only drive it once or twice a year, but we still have it.
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07-14-2014, 10:27 AM
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Mod free 5er
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evereddie
No manual shift? Really? Next thing you are going to tell me is that they will only make Televisions that have remote controls. |
And I suppose someone will suggest putting the outhouse inside our homes and somehow get the water in there too! Just can't leave well enough alone.
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07-14-2014, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pfafftown NC
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And I miss snapping my buggy whip at the channel dial on the TV to change stations. I got really good at that!
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07-14-2014, 11:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Alberta - East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evereddie
And I miss snapping my buggy whip at the channel dial on the TV to change stations. I got really good at that!
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07-14-2014, 12:21 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: top side land of Lincoln
Posts: 7,509
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geeeshh
Before ya know it, will all have hand held communication devices.
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07-14-2014, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pfafftown NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Platokidd
Before ya know it, will all have hand held communication devices.
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On a serious note, Star Trek had cell phones decades before they were a reality.
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07-14-2014, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,916
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The price of automatic transmissions is what me BUY a manual. Best thing I ever did in a vehicle. LOVE the 6 speed manual in my truck....another reason to keep it forever I guess.
less than a $1000 new clutch, pressure, flywheel and bearing.... $5000+ for a new auto
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07-14-2014, 03:46 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 5,173
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I miss my manual. Had one in my Saturn. Had one in my Mazda. When I bought the Ram I wanted to get a Manual, but no such luck. Auto was the only option.
I find it interesting in the article where they talk about only 5% of cars being manual and that's declining. The way it's written is suggestive that the lower demand for manual is what's driving it away. But in my case, I didn't by an automatic because I wanted an automatic. I bought an automatic because that was the only dang choice Ram gave me. I'm sure the sales of manuals wouldn't be declining so much if they weren't taking the choice away from us.
Oh, and IWanna: While my Saturn was cheaper for a manual, in my Mazda the manual was considered an upgrade and actually cost more.
I thought the upgrade cost was worth if in the Mazda for a couple of reasons. First, because I just enjoy driving better with a manual. Call me a control freak or whatever, I just felt happier. Second was as an added theft deterrent. I figured since the average car theft around here is joy riding kids, the likelihood of my car being stolen reduces. After all, since so many people can't drive stick, a joy riding teenager knowing how to move it more than 5 feet is pretty slim. So most would look, see it was a stick, and move on to easier prey.
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