Max Gross vehicle and trailer weight

[hotheadbilly]

Was wondering if have a 2104 Sliverado with 3.08 gears so my max tow weight is 6900 lbs. My 2016 26DBH Grey Wolf loaded is 6460 lbs and truck and trailer together is 13640 lbs My book says truck a.day trailer max is 12000 so i am 1640 lbs over weight?

[sean.wood.98]

It appears your are over weight. 3.08 limits your pulling power and 1500s really need at minimum 3.42 or 3.73. If you add passengers and fuel it is even more over. It will pull it however but it will cause early part(s) failures.

[hotheadbilly]

Yea thats what was worried about well next year I'll get me a bigger truck

[nomad297]

Originally Posted by hotheadbilly

next year I'll get me a bigger truck

Or maybe sooner.

Bruce

[Happy Vibe]

You do not necessarily need a bigger truck just one equipped to tow. The gear ratio you have is for fuel economy not towing.

[hotheadbilly]

I regret the 3.08 gears I love the truck buy hate the gears. It tows fine am only going in the foot hills. Transmission never gets hotter then 202 and the motor never goes over 210 the needle never moves. I have the factory tow package with trailer brake controls. But it is what it is when they sayou the truck can tow 6900lbs butter never say all the factors in about passages etc lol

[Computer Nerd]

202 for the tranny fluid is pretty warm, especially if it stays at that temperature for any length of time. You'll need to change that fluid more often if it does.


Computer Nerd
2014 Chevy Silverado 3500 HD Duramax
2016 Sandpiper 35ROK

[Happy Vibe]

Is it 2WD? If so you may be able to get new gears for it and not cost you an arm and a leg like a 4WD.

[hotheadbilly]

2WD. Am at the point were it's got a 100,000 mile warranty ill.push it is trade it in next year

[sean.wood.98]

With that package weight is limited. You can get a 1500 with 9600 tow package but that still is less than desirable. I had a 1500 with 3.42 tow and tranny ran 170 max pulling 8k 831ress in nc heat. Truck strained but it did pull it. As happy vibes states you can change ratios (3.73) but if you ever move up in size of trailer you'll be back in the same spot. 202 is hot, you can also add extra tranny cooler next to the factory one. I did this to my 1500

[hotheadbilly]

On new chevy 2014 and higher with out towing the tranny runs 194-198 degrees my stays around 196. I am thinking when I don't trade in iam.going for the 1500 with the 6.0 and extreme tow package it can pull 12,000. I pulled in the dead of summer 105 plus tranny only got to 204 but it goes right back down.

[silverback 35ts]

202 is not all that hot, if you tow any distance the trans oil will run betweeen 195 and 205 which is the motor temp (all late model motor temps are set at 215) so this is not bad, my allision runs hotter than that at times and red line is 285.
Trans oil today can take 250 before it starts to get hot and start to break down, so he is fine with his temps.

[silverback 35ts]

You need to sit down and read about weights is can be a little confusing, but you have weights and weight limits on both the truck and the trailer, and then a "combined" weight limit.
So spend some time online and look up all this (many locations start with trailerlife.com) and look over all these points it will help you with your question about your truck and trailer combo, and it will help you in the future when and if you replace your truck or trailer.

[aceinspp]

Originally Posted by silverback 35ts

202 is not all that hot, if you tow any distance the trans oil will run betweeen 195 and 205 which is the motor temp (all late model motor temps are set at 215) so this is not bad, my allision runs hotter than that at times and red line is 285.
Trans oil today can take 250 before it starts to get hot and start to break down, so he is fine with his temps.

X 2 later RJD

[Tonkatoy77]

I have been to a couple transmission rebuild classes through Allison. They say that 100 degrees over ambient temperature when towing is completely normal. We have school buses that see 250 degrees on a daily basis and they have 150k+ miles on them with no issues.


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[PhoneDude 8289]

My Tundra trans temp stays around the 200º range all the time. I have a scangauge ll connected via the obd ll port. The OEM trans gauge needle in the dash never moves past center. I have seen the trans temp as high as 225º pulling some long grades in the Rockies, dash gauge still center. 2nd 5r with this truck, 78K on the clock with about 40K or so towing the 5r's

[wuffwuff]

I upgrade my 02 ram from 3.55 to 3.92. Pulls easier and rpm are lower. Gas mileage was actually the same or a little better. Instead of changing out the 'ring and pinion', I had a whole Jasper axle installed. Have a 36 month warranty from Jasper. About $2500 P/L.

PS ... a lot cheaper then a new/used truck.