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Old 01-04-2020, 12:14 AM   #1
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Michelin Defender LTX M/S for 2014 F150

Looking for feedback on this tire. I see a lot of f150 owners who recommend this tire.
Costco has two different versions of this tire. One is 10 ply E but the other is less clear. The tire guy only knew the speed rating as a T. It has a load index of 116, while the E version has a load index of 123.
Can't find the ply rating of the second one and I'm concerned that the 10 ply will ride too rough when not towing.
Any help with choices will be appreciated.
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Love my Michelin Defenders

I have a 2012 F150 4WD Screw with about 10k on my set of 275/65R18s. The ride is better than either the OEMs or the Firestone Destination A/Ts that these replaced. Even my wife enjoys highway miles with this set up. They track well in snow (but only 5-6x in it) and are GREAT in the rain. I was so satisfied that I put them on my sons ‘07 4Runner and convinced my Dad to do the same on his. I’ll check the receipt for the rating.
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Dan I have been running Defenders on my vehicle's for long time... they are on my DW's Honda van and I put them on my Ram 1500. E Rated for more support towing... I ran 65 psi in all 4 quiet and smooth... really good in the rain and truck had no side to side feeling... pushing through a corner felt like it was on rails... I will change out the Firestone's that came on the new Ram at 15000-20000.
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I had them on my f-150 and I noticed 0 ride difference between OEM an the LT . I can also honestly say I am not sure I noticed a towing difference either... I also use a 3P hitch so that makes most difference.
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I have a Silverado 1500 that I put BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2's on. They are load range E and do ride a little stiffer than the OE Bridgestones that came on the truck. Load range E is overkill for a 1/2 ton truck so if load range D tires are available go with those. I did lose about 1 mpg gas mileage but the better tire is worth the trade off.

I know that your question was about Michelin tires and the Defender LTX is one of the best light truck tires out there. I considered them for my truck but they didn't have a "load range" type tire in my size. I also found out when I was doing my research that the BFG's are made by Michelin now!
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Old 01-05-2020, 10:14 AM   #6
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Looking for feedback on this tire. I see a lot of f150 owners who recommend this tire.
Costco has two different versions of this tire. One is 10 ply E but the other is less clear. The tire guy only knew the speed rating as a T. It has a load index of 116, while the E version has a load index of 123.
Can't find the ply rating of the second one and I'm concerned that the 10 ply will ride too rough when not towing.
Any help with choices will be appreciated.
Even with the 150 the E michelins will give you a great ride . you won't regret it
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I have Michelin Defender LTX M/S (E) on my Silverado 2500hd.
Also ran the older version (Michelin LTX M/S (C) of this on my old Chevy 1500.


My only knock on the defender series on my 2500 is, they are not so good on wet grassy mud type turf. Highway driving is great!

Discount Tire normally has the best price and will match others. Also free rotations on any/all of your vehicles.


Guessing you have "P rated" on your truck now and do think you would noticed the 10ply ride diff on your 1/2 ton.
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I've been running this basic tire for years with NO regrets. The name changed a few years ago to 'Defender.'

Get the E-Rated for better load capacity and you'll see no difference in ride if you drop the pressures a few pounds when not towing.

Michelin tires are another of those 'love/hate' relationships. Those that have them would never want anything else and those that don't like them say they are the worst tire manufactured.

I agree for them being classified as M/S tires they have some issues in wet grass. That's why I went with the AT2 this time. 10k on this set and no regrets there either.

25 years experience makes my vote yes.
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Michelin tires are another of those 'love/hate' relationships. Those that have them would never want anything else and those that don't like them say they are the worst tire manufactured.

I agree for them being classified as M/S tires they have some issues in wet grass. That's why I went with the AT2 this time. 10k on this set and no regrets there either.

25 years experience makes my vote yes.

X2 ! And yes I thought about the A/T series after the fact. ...
At the time I purchased mine, the a/t was only a 30k? tire vs lt 50K.
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Wet performance

[QUOTE=Platokidd;2247113]I have Michelin Defender LTX M/S (E) on my Silverado 2500hd.
Also ran the older version (Michelin LTX M/S (C) of this on my old Chevy 1500.


My only knock on the defender series on my 2500 is, they are not so good on wet grassy mud type turf. Highway driving is great!

Discount Tire normally has the best price and will match others. Also free rotations on any/all of your vehicles. end quote)
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We have been running these Michelin Load Range "E" tires on our Suburban pulling a Flagstaff 27RKWS and like the tires very well. They are slightly harder riding than the old Michelin "D" tires we had before, but the trailer pulls better, now.
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Starting my third year on my Costco bought LTX Defender tires and have 54,000 miles on them. I am going to start a 3,000 mile trip south next week on them and I will think about replacing them after the trip, regular 6,000 mi free rotations from Costco helped get that mileage... I just took some pictures...
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I replaced the OEM Firestone Destination AT's on my '17 Ram 2500 at 24000 miles, they were nearly bald, with the Michelin Defender LTX's, 285/60R20, and love them. They have about 48000 miles on them and they still give me good traction on wet pavement as well as a smooth ride at 65psi, I pump up the rear ones to 80psi when towing. If ya'll are concerned about traction on wet grass then get off-road knobbies and go ahead and tear up the grass in your campsite. The amount of time you would spend on wet grass vs on paved roadways I wouldn't be complaining about spinning tires. Use commonsense when you're getting ready to pull out of a wet grass area, take your time and if you have a 4x4 put it in 4 Low and crawl off the grass! When you're going to spend $100's if not a $1000 on tires you better be thinking about where the tires are going to spend MOST of their time and buy accordingly.
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Well satisfied with the Michelin Defender on 2013 F150. Thought I'd give up some ride quality being a stiffer tire than the oem. Turns out not bad unloaded and much better when towing. Side to side movement eliminated.
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I don't think you can go wrong with the 123 "E" tires, I took off the "P" tires on my wife's new Ram 1500 because of too much sidewall flex in the mountains where we live. Can't really tell any comfort difference but much better in the corners and not wearing the outsides like the OE. It does have air suspension which may or may not matter. I ran the OE tires at max 44, I run these at 55 empty. We don't tow anything but one of the utility trailers. Have them on the 2500 and 3500 also.
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Looking for feedback on this tire. I see a lot of f150 owners who recommend this tire.
Costco has two different versions of this tire. One is 10 ply E but the other is less clear. The tire guy only knew the speed rating as a T. It has a load index of 116, while the E version has a load index of 123.
Can't find the ply rating of the second one and I'm concerned that the 10 ply will ride too rough when not towing.
Any help with choices will be appreciated.

I have run them and their predecessor models for years. The LR E of course if you are towing. But as we were putting fewer miles per year on the truck we started suffering age related failures.

The Michelin s do not seem to hold up against the sun , heat and time here in socal. We are switching to the comparable Bridgestones. Surprise surprises they are less expensive and seem Berger too.

I got away from Costco in favor of America's Tire/Discount Tire. They seem to be every where I go.
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I have run them and their predecessor models for years. The LR E of course if you are towing. But as we were putting fewer miles per year on the truck we started suffering age related failures.

The Michelin s do not seem to hold up against the sun , heat and time here in socal. We are switching to the comparable Bridgestones. Surprise surprises they are less expensive and seem Berger too.

I got away from Costco in favor of America's Tire/Discount Tire. They seem to be every where I go.
I keep my truck in the garage all the time so no sun exposure unless on the road.
Yea, I'm going to see how close DT can get to the Costco price. As a former tireman and tire salesman, I'm a fan of Discount Tires business model.
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I run the regular 116T Defender LTX M/S tires. I considered whether I should get the E-rated tires. I decided on 116T's after reviewing my last CAT scale ticket. My rear axle hitched was 3,280 lbs, less than what my front axle weighs every day (unloaded) at 3,560 lbs. I haven't towed with E-rated tires so I can't say how it would feel different; but with my relatively light trailer the 116T Defender LTX's seem fine. Plus, I really like the Defenders for highway & daily driving -- smooth and quiet.
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I run the regular 116T Defender LTX M/S tires. I considered whether I should get the E-rated tires. I decided on 116T's after reviewing my last CAT scale ticket. My rear axle hitched was 3,280 lbs, less than what my front axle weighs every day (unloaded) at 3,560 lbs. I haven't towed with E-rated tires so I can't say how it would feel different; but with my relatively light trailer the 116T Defender LTX's seem fine. Plus, I really like the Defenders for highway & daily driving -- smooth and quiet.
Thanx!
I've decided to go with these.
1. 70k warranty vs 50k warranty.
2. Only tow a few days per year, so prefer the smoother ride for the rest of the time.
3. They're cheaper.
4. Similar construction and weight capacity to current tires, which have been good tires with no issues towing.

So thanx everone!
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Thanx!
I've decided to go with these.
1. 70k warranty vs 50k warranty.
2. Only tow a few days per year, so prefer the smoother ride for the rest of the time.
3. They're cheaper.
4. Similar construction and weight capacity to current tires, which have been good tires with no issues towing.

So thanx everone!
you can also check out the Kumho Crugen HT51 tire. its essentially the exact same as the Michelin at a pretty significant cost savings. My mom has the Michelins on her SUV and i have the Kumhos. they perform the exact same.
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