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Old 03-23-2020, 07:58 PM   #41
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:48 PM   #42
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My loaded SRW longbed 19' F-350 4X4 Diesel CCC is 3400 lb. Rated different than 30 years ago. The 2500s and 3500 have thicker, heavier frames and bigger brakes. A lower trim F-350 can go 4000 CCC. The new 2020s pick up CCC and another 1000 + in tow capacity.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:24 PM   #43
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Grew up on a farm and Dad had aí61 F150 in which we often loaded a ton and a half of fertilizer. Made those H78/15 tires squat and the back end, too.

That being said it bugs me to see people pulling trailers with a truck too small just to prove a point. Hope they donít ever get shown how dangerous that can be for them and others on the road.
the '61 Ford would have been a F100.
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Old 03-23-2020, 11:18 PM   #44
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You have the unicorn that we talk about here. They are rare. Although the gas engine doesnít have pulling power of a Diesel engine, your HD Payload F-150 definitely has a higher payload number than a Diesel 3/4 ton. You can hook up any TT out there with that package as long as youíre happy with the pulling power.
Pulling power is one thing,,,stopping power is quite another.
Not to mention stability, and frame /axel strength.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:33 AM   #45
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Mine is pushing 3/4 ton territory at 2440lbs payload. I saw a Ram 3500 diesel this summer with a 2750lb payload. That being said I realize that it still has its limitations, but I am perfectly comfortable towing my 5th wheel and fully loaded with fuel passengers cargo, I am still 500 lbs below my payload and RAWR.

I looked up your 5th wheel specs. It is a nice and light 5ver.

I have a WolfPack 285WP 33ft 5th wheel toy hauler that goes up to 12k gross. With two touring motorcycles, 35 gallons of fuel, 110 gallons of fresh water, truck with full fuel, and a 300 pound driver, I have 500 pounds to spare for the capacities of my truck. I do have more brakes and weight to use them than you do. And the private property I go to in Tennessee and West Virginia, I am glad to have the diesel for the hills!

Not all 5ver are the same. Not all 'half ton' trucks are the same. I have even seen some huge difference between one ton trucks for some reason (2200lbs difference!).
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:47 AM   #46
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We special ordered a 2020 F150 XLT Supercrew. 3.5 eco boost, 10 speed trans, 3.73 diff, max tow and heavy duty payload packages, larger wheels tires and brakes, 36 gallon fuel tank. Built in 5 weeks from ordered date to delivered at dealer. 7850 GVWR and 2482 lb payload. Truck pulling 2018 8289ws ultra lite Rockwood 5er. After doing the math and fully load we have 200lbs left over for any extras. We stayed with F150 for price, fuel economy, handling turning radius, ride comfort and fits in our garage. 3.5 eco has all the power needed to pull. Our only problem now is parks and camps closing. Stay safe and lets get this over with this covid-19.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:56 AM   #47
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:57 AM   #48
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Pulling power is one thing,,,stopping power is quite another.

Not to mention stability, and frame /axel strength.


Your correct as I mentioned in an earlier post though, trailer brakes are meant to stop the trailer. As long as you are within the tow capacity of any vehicle that used SAE J 2807 stopping distance is a part of the standard. Furthermore the standard require a certain % of tongue/ pin weights be placed on the vehicle. No they donít use a special trailer for the test. They are required to follow a chart that does require certain frontal area for conventional and 5th wheel test. It also requires a few start and stops going up a steep inclines, itís harder to think of something ( other than spinning tires on loose gravel then hitting good pavement) harder on axles.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:57 AM   #49
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I had the F150 Eco and yes it pulls just great. Just try to stop the trailer with conventional drum brakes. You will find out in a hurry why it's not a 1 ton.
You either never had that truck, or if you did, you surely knew nothing about it. I just traded in my 2016 F-150 with an Eco-Boost and that truck was rated to tow 12,000, more than any of its V-8 counterparts. 4 wheel disk brakes and I installed a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller. I replaced the crappy Ford brake pads and rotors with PowerStop brakes, as most Ford people know the factory front brakes on the Ford were junk, always shook.

It would drag around a 22-foot flatbed trailer with 4 huge Harleys and stop, start, pass people on the interstate far better than the V-8's and likely better than many older 3/4 tons.

Technology is a wonderful thing!

That being said, sure it pales in comparison to my new Ram 2500.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:44 PM   #50
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Someone who was there selling these trucks new should point out uncle Samís influence on the gvw. We had guys having to buy 3/4 ton trucks to be able to deduct them against their businesses. The government decided that under 7200 gvw was not a work unit. The manufacturers then started making all kinds of goofy combos to match up(remember Fordís strange ď7700Ē 7 bolt light 3/4 ton. I was selling new 7200# Chevy 1500s and at home had my Ď79 7200# F250 4x4.
At least we ended up with high gvw trucks that ride much better, get better mpg, and safely handle loads.
By the way; I learned over the years, to lose brand loyalty. My 5vr toter is a Ram 2500, 6.7 Tungsten Edition, my work truck is GMC SLT, 6.6, and the runaround is an F-150 ecoboost.
Enjoy your trucks, whatever the gvw,,,,,and remember to social distance at the campground.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:35 PM   #51
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I think the hood on my 2015 Chevy 2500HD weighs more than my wife's entire BMW Z4. Also the first vehicle I have owned that requires a ladder to get to everything in the engine bay.
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:32 AM   #52
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I think the hood on my 2015 Chevy 2500HD weighs more than my wife's entire BMW Z4. Also the first vehicle I have owned that requires a ladder to get to everything in the engine bay.
I carry a fold up aluminum stool in my truck bed. I need it just to work in my F150 engine bay. Plus it's my truck bed step.
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My half ton pickup pushes one ton territory!

Hockeydad,

You should look up full floating rear axle. You could probably use one.
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:08 PM   #54
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Pulling power is one thing,,,stopping power is quite another.
Not to mention stability, and frame /axel strength.
My trailer stops itself and truck if I want it to so i don't know what all the chatter is about being able to stop
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:26 PM   #55
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My trailer stops itself and truck if I want it to so i don't know what all the chatter is about being able to stop
It's a regular mantra that the RV weight police frequently use. Maybe their trailer brakes don't work?
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