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Old 07-08-2013, 04:34 PM   #1
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Need new Truck, ecoboost owners w/ 30ft TT please advise

I am going to replace the expedition for a new tow vehicle and daily driver. Lets hear it from the Ecoboost owners with a 30ft TT and a 8k lb load.
Also considering an F250 6.2L gas.

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Old 07-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #2
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I had a friend pull my fifth wheel home one day, and I was surprised how easily it handled the camper. My fifth is 7600 lbs dry, and it was fully loaded for camping, so probably in the 8500 lb range.
He pulls a slightly lighter fifth, about your weight, and has no issues whatsoever.
His empty gas mileage isn't as good as advertised, although he doesn't drive slow. He says that if he stays out of the turbos, it will do slightly over 20 mpg.
All things considered, he really likes the truck. But he does have all of the towing options, so it isn't a cheap truck.
If you aren't stuck on Ford, Dodge is coming out with the big hemi in their 3/4 tons in the fall. That would pull the heck out of your camper!
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:54 PM   #3
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:06 PM   #4
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We have a seasonal site, with limited towing, but the Ecoboost handles our 8k V-Lite very well. I have the MaxTow package, with the 3.73 axles. Stickered payload on truck is 1845 lbs. I also use an Equilizer WDH. Power is definitely not an issue. I still smile everytime those twin turbos spool up. As always, YMMV.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:12 PM   #5
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I also use an equalizer wdh. Well worth the money! Thanks did the input
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:26 PM   #6
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I have a 2012 ecoboost and pull a 28vbh v-cross around 7700 lbs. It tows great and have had no problems. I had a 07 F150 with the 5.4 and the ecoboost tows the tt much better.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:36 PM   #7
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We pull our Crusader 295RST with out 2012 F-150 Ecobeast, it is a HD Payload + Max Tow combo though. It'll pull the gates off hell....

Your ability to safely pull that sort of weight TT will depend on the build of your truck. You'll not want for power, but you'll have to watch your RAWR and payload.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:08 AM   #8
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I finally tried mine out this weekend. I bought it last year but didn't get the chance to use it. I have 2012 screw 5.5 box xtr 4x4 eco max tow. I have a northtrail 31bdss, five kids, bikes and full weight today was 15189 lbs. The trip was only about 150kms but I was fairly impressed with the power. I would set it in tow/haul and limit it to fifth gear. I set the cruise at 100km and it was revving around 2100. It would rarely downshift, but I was only on rolling ground, no mountains. There was one steeper pull of 7% grade. I had to slow to 80km to go by someone. I wanted to see what it would do and it picked up to 100km/hr going up this grade with no problem. Gas mileage was around 8-8.5 mpg on the dash. The biggest problem I have now is its about 600 lbs too heavy on the truck weighing 8250 with 700 too much on the rear axle. I'm going to have to adjust this the best I can.
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15000 lbs. ????
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:45 PM   #10
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I am not pulling anything as heavy as your rig, but I am very happy with my ecoboost. Did not get max tow package and only have the 3.55 gears. Completely loaded would guess trailer is around 6000 to 6500 lbs or so.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:57 PM   #11
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Enjoy my EcoBoost thoroughly. I do have the HD payload option plus Max Tow with the 157" wheelbase (6.5 bed). Our trailer is 34'9" and hovers around 8000 lb loaded. Have the LT tires and the Husky Centerline WD and sway control hitch.
Incredible torque in the engine.

Here are the truck's sticker specs:
Max payload 2,493
Rear GAWR 4,800
Front GAWR 3,750
GVWR 8,200
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:16 AM   #12
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15000 lbs. ????
Sorry that is with the truck and family all in. Trailer dry is 6700ish
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I have a 2012 ecobeast with max tow and pull my Puma 31dbts. Loaded it weighs in at about 9500lbs and a tongue weight of about 1050. She pulls like a charm and with the equalizer 12k weight/sway hitch it handles windy conditions really well.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:56 AM   #14
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If you aren't stuck on Ford, Dodge is coming out with the big hemi in their 3/4 tons in the fall. That would pull the heck out of your camper!
Also for the 2014 model year is the 3.0 Ecodiesel in the Ram 1/2 tons 240hp 420ft lbs and will see 30mpg on the highway (unloaded)
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There was one steeper pull of 7% grade. I had to slow to 80km to go by someone. I wanted to see what it would do and it picked up to 100km/hr going up this grade with no problem.
Now that is impressive!
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Enjoy my EcoBoost thoroughly. I do have the HD payload option plus Max Tow with the 157" wheelbase (6.5 bed). Our trailer is 34'9" and hovers around 8000 lb loaded. Have the LT tires and the Husky Centerline WD and sway control hitch.
Incredible torque in the engine.

Here are the truck's sticker specs:
Max payload 2,493
Rear GAWR 4,800
Front GAWR 3,750
GVWR 8,200

Curious as to the tires load range Ford puts on your truck. Is it an E?
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Curious as to the tires load range Ford puts on your truck. Is it an E?
Yes, they are BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A's load range "E" and the axles are 7 lugs.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:59 PM   #18
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I have a 2011 f-150 supercab ecoboost that I pull our 34'5" 30WIKSS with. At least I have it until Friday. That's when I pick up my F-250 6.2L SuperCab FX4.

I love the Ecoboost. It truly is the EcoBeast that everybody talks about. It has no problem at all pulling the 8000# (loaded) travel trailer. It manages long inclines and hills with no problem. It runs at low RPM's and maintains speed with ease.

Now, what the f-150 does not have.

ASS!

No matter what you do, you'll always have to manage what you put in your camper and especially what you put in the bed of the truck. The frame will always be an F-150 frame (1/2 ton). The payload will always be at least 1,500 pounds less than the F-250. The Ecoboost no matter how cool, will always be at least 1,000 pounds lighter than the F-250, meaning those 18 wheelers you meet on your way to the campground will move you across your lane, even if you don't have lane to move in.

The money to purchase a well equipped (read max-tow, max payload) F-150 Ecoboost will be VERY close to the money you'll pay for the F-250. The F-250 (2013) I just purchased with more options than my F-150 (2011) only cost $2500 more. (the 4 wheel drive on the 2013 which the ecoboost does not have).

Ask your employer if they have access to the X-plan. It really does save you money. That, or negotiate your butt off. I simply prefer both.

Really, if your budget can accommodate either, I can see no reason to even consider the Ecoboost. It's still an F-150. The cool factor carrys with it brakes that are smaller, (once the ecobeast gets you and the family soaring down the highway at 60 or 65 MPH with 7500# attached stopping can sometimes be more important that acceleration ability and/or the cool factor)

I LOVE my Ecoboost. I love my Bride and my life more.

I know I'll love the capacity, safety and appearance of my new 250. Oh yeah, F-250's are cool too!

YMMV
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:13 PM   #19
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p.s. It has been said, "don't buy a tow vehicle for this travel trailer, buy a tow vehicle for the next one".
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