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08-10-2020, 08:49 PM
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Over weight??
I clipped this from another forum I hardly ever read....
Think we need weight police? This person was asking if he might be ok.....
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08-10-2020, 08:54 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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16,000 pound camper would most likely have a minimum of 2400 pounds (15%) on the pin (most likely closer to 3200 - 20%)).
A lot would depend on the actual pin weight and the remaining payload after his crew gets in the truck (and the hitch of course).
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08-10-2020, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
16,000 pound camper would most likely have a minimum of 2400 pounds (15%) on the pin (most likely closer to 3200 - 20%)).
A lot would depend on the actual pin weight and the remaining payload after his crew gets in the truck (and the hitch of course).
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X2 and I am betting he doesn’t have pennies more than 2000# of payload available. It just boggles my little mind.
FWIW I pulled a 5er about that weight with my 3/4 2065# on flat land about 10 miles for a friend. Now the brakes seemed non existent, but I could have killed someone. I got ready for the highway turnoff at 45mph anticipated stop and about ran past the turnoff. Made a believer of the ability of my old truck.
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I love puns, irony and tasteless jokes...
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08-10-2020, 09:26 PM
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The weight police are being defunded He doesn't need to worry
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08-12-2020, 09:16 PM
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Yes you will over weight. the pin weight alone will overload the pickup. I wouldn't tow that without an F350 or Chev/GMAC or Ram 3500.
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08-13-2020, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
16,000 pound camper would most likely have a minimum of 2400 pounds (15%) on the pin (most likely closer to 3200 - 20%)).
A lot would depend on the actual pin weight and the remaining payload after his crew gets in the truck (and the hitch of course).
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Think he is asking, not so much about exceeding payload, but as long as he doesnt exceed his axle rating. My guess is yea payload is already out the window, but not sure what his axle is rated for.
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08-13-2020, 06:47 PM
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I just saw this on a 5th wheel forum. He got neutral and semi positive comments.
I figured if posted here someone would call the WP on him quick.
I am only a cautious member of the WP and I responded that it was not safe. That 3/4T mega cab diesel won’t have 2000# of payload. All I needed to read was triple axle and I knew it was over. I am at the limits with my 10K unit, but it is a bit Pin heavy.
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08-13-2020, 09:32 PM
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Over weight??
I’m already towing that trailer w 12560 lb dry weight, 16300lbs GVWR and my truck is a 2018 Bighorn Crew Cab SRW, Short Bed, HO. 3825 lbs payload. Actual weight loaded for travel is about 14500lbs.
I also have a B&W slider hitch, 46 gallon Aux fuel tank, an Encore Hard Cover and Cooper 295/70R18 tires rates at 4080 lbs each.
All he needs to do is add air bags, hook her and go. Don’t take 2 tons of junk he doesn’t need with him.
My truck tows it beautifully. That 2500 will do the same. He has the same tires as a Ram 3500 and the same axle. He just needs to handle some extra weight.
My truck weighs about 9000 lbs loaded and I’m still under the payload.
Some trailers would put him over if he goes full GVWR. So you must make sure you don’t carry stuff you don’t use. It’s not hard really.
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08-13-2020, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ejs4029
The weight police are being defunded He doesn't need to worry
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Lol!!!
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08-13-2020, 09:50 PM
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The last RAM 2500 Cummins crew short bed that was fully equipped had a pay load just shy of 1800. I know the motor would do it, but the truck will hurt.
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08-13-2020, 10:08 PM
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I think you all are missing the point of his question, I think he is asking if he can tow that weight if he doesn't exceed his axle rating.. He's not mentioning payload his question but stating what he has available.. he's says "if I do exceed my axle rating" Which doesn't make sense I think he meant to say "don't exceed my axle rating" Because the word "do" wouldn't even be needed and would rather have been said "if I exceeded" my axle rating. So if he IS actually speaking about that, then he has a pretty valid question which may not be dismissed as easily as he may well be within his axle rating towing that, Or maybe Im just way off base.
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08-16-2020, 08:53 PM
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He will probably exceed the axle rating. Probably both front and rear, and the GVWR. The thing starts at probably almost 7500 pounds empty.
He will be over the Max trailer rating, the GCWR, the GVWR.
It's like he's trying to find a single number, the GAWR, that he might not exceed and calling it good to go.
16,000 pounds needs a dually, and I'm usually on the just send it side of the weight game.
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