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Old 05-14-2021, 06:32 PM   #1
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Overloaded with grey and black tank full?

My single axle Apex Nano 185BH has been serving my family well at the full hook up sites.

However, I am planned up for dry camping for this coming summer and lack of cargo carrying capacity and low GAWR of 3500 gets me very concerned.

CCC of my trailer is only 531 lbs and for last camping I weight everything I carried and came to just under 530 lbs. For upcoming dry camping the amount of the loads will be very similar so I won't go beyond CCC and GVWR of 3800 lbs. By the time my 30 gallon grey tank and black tank is full it will obviously be quite a bit overloaded.

Now my question is, would it be safe to drive to dump station being overloaded? Dump station is within the campsite that I plan to visit and distance will be less than a mile.

I thought about upgrading to 4400 lbs axle and 2000 or 2500 lbs leaf spring just for this reason.

Any advise would be appreciated!
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:57 PM   #2
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drive the mile and dump.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:00 PM   #3
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drive the mile and dump.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:12 PM   #4
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I bought a "blue boy" (dump wagon) for use when we dry camped at Sigsby Key on Key West Naval Base. We camped there for 6 weeks in winter.

Saves on breaking camp every few days to dump. When we rotated to full hookups every 3 weeks for a week I did a thorough flush.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:13 PM   #5
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Am I overthinking? Lol
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:16 PM   #6
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Am I overthinking? Lol
Yea, you are. Drive the mile and dump. Since you won't be driving highway speeds, at least I hope not, in the campground you'll be fine.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:59 PM   #8
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Portable tote I may consider.

And most of you guys sounds like my wife. She also said "JUST DRIVE OVER AND DUMP" I may do this for time being. Thanks guys!
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Old 05-15-2021, 02:47 PM   #9
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Agree with others...drive the mile. Just avoid big bumps. Also, many parks, especially National Parks allow the grey water use away from the campsite on trees. I have carried a regular garden hose just for this purpose. If you don't have one, get a cap for your drain that has a hose thread built into it..
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Old 05-15-2021, 02:52 PM   #10
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Over thinking? Yes.

Hook up and dump or buy a poo poo tank on wheels.
Youíll be fine.


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Welcome to the forum.

If your tanks are big enough to last for your full stay then just tow the trailer to the dump station and dump it. If your tanks aren’t big enough, buy the sewer tote.

If you want advice on a tote there are lots of threads on that. “Downsizing Makes Sense” posted a great video on YouTube recently comparing the Barker (blue) and the Camco (grey and orange) totes.

Edit: Just want to add that if you are regularly at or over the trailer’s GVWR that’s a concern to be addressed. In particular, the tires that factories install are often poor quality and overloading them should be avoided. If you’re in this situation I strongly recommend upgrading the trailer’s tires.
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Don't overbuy on the tote. Dragging those little wheels through gravel or grass is hard work. We have a 25 gallon (200 lbs.) two-wheeled tote and dragging it 30 feet through pea gravel just to get it to the golf cart is hard work. When pulling it, I estimate I'm carrying 75 lbs. on the handle. I wouldn't want to carry much more.
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And most of you guys sounds like my wife. She also said "JUST DRIVE OVER AND DUMP" I may do this for time being. Thanks guys!
Always listen to the wife.
The advantage of driving to the dump is usually the availability of non potable water to allow you to flush the tanks as well as dumping.
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Again, much appreciated for suggestions.

I am always at or just below GVWR everytime we go camping. Definitely considering higher load tires as current one is load C (still plenty even though gvwr plus grey & black tank full. And still considering heavier axle and leaf springs.

A few of my buddies have different sizes of portable totes and was also told not to go for too big one as it will be pain to drag it around.

And where can I find sewer cap with hose adapter? That sounds good idea if the campground allows grey water dumping.
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Always listen to the wife.
The advantage of driving to the dump is usually the availability of non potable water to allow you to flush the tanks as well as dumping.
Happy wife, happy life right? Lol
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Old 05-16-2021, 07:52 AM   #16
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Again, much appreciated for suggestions.

I am always at or just below GVWR everytime we go camping. Definitely considering higher load tires as current one is load C (still plenty even though gvwr plus grey & black tank full. And still considering heavier axle and leaf springs.

A few of my buddies have different sizes of portable totes and was also told not to go for too big one as it will be pain to drag it around.

And where can I find sewer cap with hose adapter? That sounds good idea if the campground allows grey water dumping.
I've been overloaded and have dealt with frame issues as a result. Driving a mile in a campground is fine. Driving 15,000 miles criss crossing the country is not.

The upgrades are all good to have, but don't believe that you can then exceed the GVWR. The GVWR is dictated by the tires, wheels, axles, suspension, frame, and even the walls above it. If you upgrade all of those things, you just move the failure point up the line.

I went super non-traditional with my black tank "tote"- I went for a sewer bladder. I can offload most of my tanks with ease and often without concern for overfilling my bladder. I use a macerator to pump into it and the bladder lives in the truck bed. I don't even have to slow down when driving to the dump station (which worked, when I have had to drive 10 miles to it).

https://learntorv.com/sewer-bladder/

It's not for everyone, but I love the dang thing.


And here's the hose cap:

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Durable...dp/B000BQKBP2/
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:52 AM   #19
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SEWER CAP w/ HOSE CONNECT

The sewer Cap with a hose connection is avaiable at any Camping World and most other RV supply businesses.
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That bladder would make me nervous. One little rip, and **** would go everywhere. I use a tank to pump my gray water into. I've never worried about the black tank. We had six people for 4 days with no issues.

I recommend upgrading tires on every trailer. I've had no flats since I did. Pay attention to Speed Rating. More is better.
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