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07-02-2020, 01:50 PM
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Pulling a trailer behind travel trailer
I just bought a 2020 Rockwood Mini Lite that came with a 2" receiver on back. I was curious if anyone knew the tongue weight and towing weight limits? I am wanting to pull a jet ski or two behind it, but am unable to find any info on what I can get away with. 2 jet skis with trailer wiegh approximate 2k lbs. Thanks for any assistance you guys could provide.
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07-02-2020, 01:59 PM
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It has a 300# limit. It's an accessory hitch for a bike rack or the like. It's not intended for towing.
Is that even legal?
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07-02-2020, 02:05 PM
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I think the answer is zero, I believe your trailer is not a fifth wheel and can not be used to tow another trailer.
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07-02-2020, 02:39 PM
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Well dangit, thanks for raining on my parade. . On a positive note, this news saved me some $
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07-02-2020, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas2020Minilite2509s
Well dangit, thanks for raining on my parade. . On a positive note, this news saved me some $
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Your trailer has an ultralight frame so without extensive modifications, it would be a disaster.
Also, if your trailer is new, such a mod would void the frame warranty, which is longer than the 1 year factory warranty.
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07-02-2020, 02:46 PM
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As discussed in other threads about triple towing, just because it is illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.
You can do this legally in some states with a 5th wheel.
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07-02-2020, 02:53 PM
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Do you think my hitch would handle? I am not all that worried about the legality of it.
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07-02-2020, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas2020Minilite2509s
Do you think my hitch would handle? I am not all that worried about the legality of it.
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Simply, no.
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07-02-2020, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas2020Minilite2509s
Do you think my hitch would handle? I am not all that worried about the legality of it.
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Well, you're likely going to lose the trailer and ripoff the bumper.[emoji32][emoji1786]
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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07-02-2020, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Well, you're likely going to lose the trailer and ripoff the bumper.
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Dan, it's an accessory hitch mounted to the frame, not to the bumper. He wouldn't lose the bumper but would probably rip a hole in the frame.
His multi-$1,000 toys would be scattered behind him on the highway. He wouldn't know it until the flashing blue lights showed up to inform him.
@Texas2020Minilite2509s, let us know how it works out.
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07-02-2020, 03:30 PM
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And I have to wonder whether his insurance would cover the financial loss.
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07-02-2020, 03:36 PM
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[QUOTE=Texas2020Minilite2509s;2357865 Just asking the question since there is 0 info in the manual.[/QUOTE]
I realize you have but 4 posts... and... that you really don't know, what you don't know... but... when you post something like "I am not all that worried about the legality of it"... you are going to get some wise comments. Just sayin'.
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07-02-2020, 03:38 PM
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Just as confused as you
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Sure, why not? It will be only you, your family, your toys, and those around you that will be at risk if it gets squirrelly and you loose it.
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07-02-2020, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
I realize you have but 4 posts... and... that you really don't know, what you don't know... but... when you post something like "I am not all that worried about the legality of it"... you are going to get some wise @ss comments. Just sayin'.
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I thought I saw some reasonable posts raising some legitimate concerns. I was deadly serious asking whether insurance would cover any financial losses due to triple towing.
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07-02-2020, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas2020Minilite2509s
Just asking the question since there is 0 info in the manual.
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My apologies if you were offended. You are correct, there is 0 info in the manual and I did not find it described anywhere in my packet (I have a 2020 2507S with the same receiver). However, the hitch itself is almost certainly labeled with the capacity (I think it's a legal requirement), and there's probably a scary warning sticker on it.
To be clear, it is an accessory hitch, not a trailer hitch.
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07-02-2020, 04:00 PM
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If the rear camper receiver really has a 300lb limit for a bike rack with the way they bounce I would think it would be ok for that small of a trailer. If you do it make frequent checks on the hitch and frame for any issues, I would also add a camera to the back of the camper to keep an eye on things.
I would not do it and I am not suggesting it but it doesn't sound as bad as a lot of things I see.
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07-02-2020, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chriscowles
To be clear, it is an accessory hitch, not a trailer hitch.
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Could you please tell me the difference between an accessory hitch and a trailer hitch? I am not saying there is not a difference but I have never seen it.
My wife's car has a trailer hitch I installed for a bike rack and didn't add a trailer light connection. So this would probably qualify as an accessory hitch but it is the same hitch.
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07-02-2020, 04:17 PM
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It was just clarified to me by a FR rep that "Right by the hitch receiver, we are putting a warning sticker that says 300 lb capacity and not intended for towing. The reason we put not for towing is because it is Forest River’s stance that customers should not double tow but it is the exact same hitch and frame setup that other manufacturers use and they allow towing."
So, that's a Forest River position, not necessarily the hitch manufacturer's position.
Disregarding legalities of double-towing, the setup seems pretty inadequate, particularly on a light trailer.
Edit: note above that the explanation about FR's stance addresses the "not for towing" language. I believe the 300# weight limit is from LCI, the frame and hitch manufacturer. I think there's a manufacturer sticker on the hitch itself.
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TV: 2021 Ford F-150 4WD XLT Crew w/ 3.5L EB & HDPP, payload: 2,416#.
RV: 2020 Rockwood Mini-Lite 2507S, Propride 3P hitch w/ 1400# spring bars
Camping nights: 2021, 52; 2022, 99; 2023, 88; 2024, TBD (Est: 80+)
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07-02-2020, 05:02 PM
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Actually the correct term is "hitch receiver". A hitch is what goes into the hitch receiver, such as a weight distribution hitch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by llr
Could you please tell me the difference between an accessory hitch and a trailer hitch? I am not saying there is not a difference but I have never seen it.
My wife's car has a trailer hitch I installed for a bike rack and didn't add a trailer light connection. So this would probably qualify as an accessory hitch but it is the same hitch.
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and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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07-02-2020, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llr
Could you please tell me the difference between an accessory hitch and a trailer hitch? I am not saying there is not a difference but I have never seen it.
My wife's car has a trailer hitch I installed for a bike rack and didn't add a trailer light connection. So this would probably qualify as an accessory hitch but it is the same hitch.
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An accessory hitch will be designed and rated to CARRY small loads like bicycles or something on a suspended platform. It is not designed or rated to PULL weight like you do when pulling a trailer. It may be the receiver itself or the connection to whatever its mounted to. Some will suggest it nothing more than lawyers but I won’t test that theory with my stuff.
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