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Old 02-21-2021, 10:17 AM   #1
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Short Bed vs Long Bed

I know this has been discussed to death but I want to limit this discussion to only 2020 and 2021, 2500 or 3500 trucks. If other years have the same bed lengths fine. Iím not a truck person so I really donít know.

This question is for a purchase of a new TV and 5th wheel trailer and Hitch. Iíve kind of narrowed it down to Ford for payload capacity reasons. Iím not sure about 6í9Ē bed or 8í. I was also looking at the Super Cab instead of the Crew Cab for weight reasons. Also the ride quality of a one truck vs 3/4 ton. No diesels itís either the smaller Ford gas engine 6.2 or 7.3. There isnít much difference in price between the 1 and 3/4 ton.

The truck would come first and would buy the 5th wheel based on that. Looking at trailers about 35 feet. We are old and retired and donít want a rough riding TV and it will also be our daily driver.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:32 AM   #2
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... Iíve kind of narrowed it down to Ford for payload capacity reasons.
The new Chevys have more payload across the board in the 3/4 ton segment. You would have to move up to an F350 to beat the GM 2500 in payload. That may play into your decision if the ride on the GM2500 is better than than F350.

I can't help you on bed length and 5th wheels. I prefer an 8 foot bed but many like their short beds.

Ford's new 7.3 looks interesting, hopefully it develops a reputation for reliability by the time I'm looking again.

Good luck.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:53 AM   #3
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Any of the long beds (8') will give you a better ride
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The longer the bed the better the ride and the larger the fuel tank.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:58 AM   #5
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Go with the 8' bed truck. Here is why!

The wheel base of a long bed truck will provide a better ride than the short wheel base of a short bed truck. It is the wheel base that makes the difference in the ride, not the bed length. Here is an example on what I mean. I am using my model year of truck. A 2008, Dodge Regular Cab Long Bed truck has a wheel base of 140.5", the Dodge Mega Cab with a Short Bed has a wheel base of 160.5 "

You can use a standard hitch of your choice in a long bed truck. You will need a slider hitch in a short bed truck.

The long bed truck will allow for an additional fuel tank to be added. This will allow you more driving distances between fill-ups. Making it easier to fill the truck up without the 5th wheel attached.

Purchase a 3500 SRW truck this should allow you to tow most 35' trailers. An the ride will not be that much different than a 2500 model truck.
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Old 02-21-2021, 11:05 AM   #6
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I haven't checked the gas F350's. But with the diesel the short bed has a GVWR of 11500 where the long bed has a GvWR of 12400. Like was mentioned earlier the long bed has a larger gas tank. The different GVWR started in 2020.
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Old 02-21-2021, 12:28 PM   #7
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Here is my opinion which many will still argue with because they feel they must...
We have owned our 2019 F-250 Lariat 6.2L long bed for 26-months now, we only have 12k miles on it and really only use it for towing.
When used for towing the ride is ok as it has weight in the back, this truck also has the plow / camper package so it has the heavier spring package. When not towing the ride in this truck sucks ass and that is putting it as mildly as I can.
It is the worst riding vehicle I have ever owned, maybe if you lived in Florida where it is mostly flat and the majority of the roads are in decent shape it would probably seem ok.
But living in New England where winters are brutal on roadways the ride is awful, which is why when we are not towing anything this truck sits in our driveway and I use my 2020 Tundra as it rides like a Cadillac compared to the F-250.
Again, great truck for towing, just not as a daily driver.
One other thing to consider with Ford, the super cab long bed trucks only have a 34 gallon gas tank. The quad cab long bed trucks have the larger 48 gallon tanks.
If I were buying new today I would seriously consider the new GM HD trucks as the independent front suspension should offer a better ride when empty.
But only way you can know for sure is for you to go test drive them all and make your own decision.
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I have a 07 Silverado 2500 and a 2015 F250. The above post is correct, the F250 ride is like a truck, the Chevy rides like a car. The F250 kicks butt on working and towing. The F250 makes the Chevy look and feel like a 1/2 ton. The Chevy is reg cab long bed. The F250 is crew cab short bed. I have also towed our TT with a 2015 Dodge 3/4 ton crew cab short bed. The F250 is the best of the 3. Much more stable. As for power and fuel usage, all 3 are very close. As for transmission and engine cooling, the F250 beats the Chevy and Dodge. The F250 temps dont move. The Chevy and Dodge both gain engine and transmission temp.
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Old 02-21-2021, 01:59 PM   #9
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I’ve kind of narrowed it down to Ford for payload capacity reasons. I’m not sure about 6’9” bed or 8’
As has already been mentioned several times, a long bed will have a better ride. As for the payload questions, I made up this chart a few months ago when I began thinking of a new TV. Still considering. Don't need one but need and want are two different things. My current truck is running fine and is almost paid for. (BTW, I am strictly a long bed guy. that's why it is the only model I put on the chart?


Numbers from the brochures are just published numbers of course. Actual numbers would depend on the truck and options you got.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:16 PM   #10
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It all comes down to what you prefer and the experience you have test driving them. I will always have a 6.5' bed as that is what I prefer, it fits in my garage and is easier to get around town in than the long beds we have on the farm. I honestly haven't noticed enough difference in the ride versus the long bed, especially on the newer trucks.
For pulling fifth wheels, lots of hitch options for full clearance. I prefer the Sidewinder type.
I prefer GMs as I like the ride better and the cabin comfort. We have all the big 3 manufacturers on the farm, so I get to compare
Again, either way works, it's just what you prefer for whatever reasoning makes sense to you.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:47 PM   #11
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In general, an 8' bed should be more stable when towing but is less maneuverable.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:08 PM   #12
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We have owned our 2019 F-250 Lariat 6.2L long bed for 26-months now, we only have 12k miles on it and really only use it for towing.

When used for towing the ride is ok as it has weight in the back, this truck also has the plow / camper package so it has the heavier spring package. When not towing the ride in this truck sucks ass and that is putting it as mildly as I can.
It is the worst riding vehicle I have ever owned, maybe if you lived in Florida where it is mostly flat and the majority of the roads are in decent shape it would probably seem ok.

But living in New England where winters are brutal on roadways the ride is awful, which is why when we are not towing anything this truck sits in our driveway and I use my 2020 Tundra as it rides like a Cadillac compared to the F-250.
It would be a nuisance, but have you considered lowering the tire pressure, especially in the rear, only raising it when you are towing?

When DW totaled her Yukon XL, the tow vehicle, she picked out a GMC Sierra 2500 crew cab, middle-length bed with the HD tow package--and was shocked when she hit her first speed bump. The long wheelbase and Since then she uses my Tahoe for all her errands. I need to get the vehicle weight when we don't have a trailer attached and figure out what tire pressures I can drop down to.
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Might not apply here, but in my garage the door clears the TV's back bumper of my long box by almost 2 inches with the front bumper against the wall.
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As mentioned above, the snow plow package makes the truck ride hard. Do not get the snow package unless you are going to plow snow. My F350 long bed rides nice, but it is a truck not a car. Been driving a F350 since 1999 everyday and I am still here. Also as mentioned and very important,can't beat 48 gallons of fuel. Just have to be aware of your surroundings when driving the long bed.
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Thanks this is all great information and gives me a few things to think about. I don’t want a rough riding truck for sure. The chart is great on payload capacity. Seems Ram is the lowest by far but from what I’ve read they are quite comfortable. Regardless of what truck I want there are none available. This is either going to be and order thing or wait until something is available. Funny lots of 1/2 tons available.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:00 PM   #18
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I have a 2017 F350 Long bed diesel and it rides like a dream. It's a crew cab so it's a lot of truck to maneuver around but I love the ride.
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We just bought a new 2020 TV a 2500 2wd chevy long bed,extended cab with the new 400 cubic inch engine. When we went for a very thorough test drive on all kinds of roads both the DW and I were completely stunned at how good the ride was. The wheels are 18Ē instead of the standard 17Ē. Tire pressure is 60 in the rear and 55 in the front, but both can be set to 80lbs. I would urge the OP to drive all 3 brands And see. Definitely stay away from the snow plow package. Jay
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If you do go with the F250/350 opt for the diesel. Much better fuel economy than a gasser. A bit more money but hey, if your buying a 5th wheel you got money to spare (LOL)
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