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10-01-2020, 05:51 PM
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Special oil for Ford EcoBoost & other GDI engines
A new grade of oil has been introduced for Ford EcoBoost and other Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) engines. In these engines, gasoline is injected directly into the combustion chamber at high pressure. This gives rise to two wear factors not experienced by other engines.
The complete story is here.
The link above is volatile--content changes each month--so I'm also attaching a PDF of the article.
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10-01-2020, 06:00 PM
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Ditto
I am not sure you can buy the special oils easily at the normal places.
My Jag uses that oil. Only the dealers have it. Mobil one now has one.
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10-01-2020, 06:17 PM
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Of course what's nice about the ecoboost engines introduced since 2017 in the F-150s is that they have port injection in addition to direction injection.
I change my oil in my ecoboost at 5k miles or less. Using the oil life monitor is a big mistake.
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10-01-2020, 06:43 PM
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Expedition didn’t get the dual injection EB until 2018 MY
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10-01-2020, 06:49 PM
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Yep which is why I made sure to say F150. Not sure why Expedition wasn't included in 2017.
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Originally Posted by IvoryHemi
Expedition didn’t get the dual injection EB until 2018 MY
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10-01-2020, 06:54 PM
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BTW, regular Mobil 1 meets the new spec which is what I already use.
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10-01-2020, 07:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
Yep which is why I made sure to say F150. Not sure why Expedition wasn't included in 2017.
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I’m guessing they didn’t want to put the new engine/trans in the old body style
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10-01-2020, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IvoryHemi
I’m guessing they didn’t want to put the new engine/trans in the old body style
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That may be a good reason. There wasn't a redesign of the 2016 to 2017 F-150.
Must be some design change problems that they couldn't do it on more vehicles at a time. Hard to imagine with just a fuel injection change.
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10-02-2020, 12:44 PM
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AMSOIL Signature series oils also meet the new criteria. I think it's the best oil on the market, although it is pricier than the others. I think the lubrication it provides is better--and I'm NOT an AMSOIL dealer, just a user.
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10-02-2020, 02:48 PM
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I use Castrol synthetic and take it to the dealer for changes. They haven’t mentioned anything to me about whether or not if it’s compatible.
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10-02-2020, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomkatb
Ditto
I am not sure you can buy the special oils easily at the normal places.
My Jag uses that oil. Only the dealers have it. Mobil one now has one.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=gdi+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Who makes the oil for the "dealers"?
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10-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
A new grade of oil has been introduced for Ford EcoBoost and other Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) engines. In these engines, gasoline is injected directly into the combustion chamber at high pressure. This gives rise to two wear factors not experienced by other engines.
The complete story is here.
The link above is volatile--content changes each month--so I'm also attaching a PDF of the article. |
WOW! This engine line is just teaming with red flags. Soot in the oil, timing chain failure, engine knock and burnt pistons. No thanks.
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10-02-2020, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D W
WOW! This engine line is just teaming with red flags. Soot in the oil, timing chain failure, engine knock and burnt pistons. No thanks.
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The newer engines have port injection in addition to DI which gets rid of the issues they described.
One problem they didn't describe that port injection gets rid of is the carbon buildup behind the intake valve.
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10-02-2020, 09:33 PM
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You are okay
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Originally Posted by Palinduff
I use Castrol synthetic and take it to the dealer for changes. They haven’t mentioned anything to me about whether or not if it’s compatible.
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You are okay. See
https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united...ification.html
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"Everybody's RV is not like your RV."
"Always take pictures with the button on the right."
"Always bypass the water heater before opening the low-point drains."
Sticks and Bricks: Raleigh, NC
2008 Cherokee 38P: at Ivor, VA permanently
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10-02-2020, 09:50 PM
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Mike.t
Castrol makes the “special” Jag oil. The under 2000cc motor puts out 300hp. Scared to not use it until the warrantee expires. All maintenance on a Jag is free for 5 years. I suspect an oil change is $250.
I have seen a picture of the bottle. Dealers buy it in 30 gallon barrels.
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