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What’s wrong with either one of them...nothing. It is a matter of preference. I like the fact that the Timbrens are on there if needed, and if they are not needed they are just a normal bump stop. I appreciate the zero maintenance, nothing to breakdown concept that the Tinbrens carry. Anyone who has a 2011+ Super Duty knows that Ford took out a leaf in the rear to accommodate the yuppies with tender hind parts, so sag on these model years is a problem. I have had over 4000 lbs in the bed of my 2011 F250 and the Timbrens stopped the sag and controlled the load. If you load your truck to the point where it continues to sag after hitting the Timbrens, there is something terribly wrong with your truck, Timbrens, or you are fantastically over loaded. For more money, airbags do the same thing with the added convenience of adjustability.
“I still say that you should not have a sag with either system in use.”
This is true of airbags, not Timbrens. In order for the Timbrens to function as intended there is roughly and 1 1/2” gap between the Timbren itself and the bump stop perch. Ask anyone who has ordered the wrong size Timbrens about how it feels always riding on them, it sucks big time, very harsh. This is not how they were designed to work, it is in fact how airbags were designed to work, always on. The 1 1/2” gap allows for normal suspension travel without hitting the Timbren.
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11-15-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ependydad
I guess let me ask a different question - has there ever been a case where you, or other Timbren users, wishes you would have had adjustability in your setup? Road conditions, camper upgrade, helping a friend move, etc.
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I can't recall any.
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11-15-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugged Brown
I can't recall any.
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I don’t recall ever wanting or needing adjustment capabilities with the Timbrens. There is no adjusting for loaded or un-loaded. They are there when needed, and just a normal bump stop when not needed. Of course if I ever needed adjustment capabilities I would just install airbags.
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11-15-2013, 11:21 AM
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With the press of a button, I can stiffen the ride to where it is like having no suspension or soften it to the stock ride. In my case, there has been no maintenance and the air bags and compressor were paid for 13 years ago. So with putting the same setup on 2 trucks have brought the cost down to 2 sets of Timbrens. I really like the adjustability.
BTW, the whole setup was only $275 in 2000.
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11-15-2013, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
With the press of a button, I can stiffen the ride to where it is like having no suspension or soften it to the stock ride. In my case, there has been no maintenance and the air bags and compressor were paid for 13 years ago. So with putting the same setup on 2 trucks have brought the cost down to 2 sets of Timbrens. I really like the adjustability.
BTW, the whole setup was only $275 in 2000.
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What would that cost in 2013. I priced that very option for the firestone airbags and came in around $1000 compared to Timbrens around $200. I still haven't decided which way to go, but my wallet's argument is very convincing. If I purchased the same model truck as I had before, I could have reused the Timbrens and voila, same argument as you.
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11-15-2013, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugged Brown
What would that cost in 2013. I priced that very option for the firestone airbags and came in around $1000 compared to Timbrens around $200. I still haven't decided which way to go, but my wallet's argument is very convincing. If I purchased the same model truck as I had before, I could have reused the Timbrens and voila, same argument as you.
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According to JC Whitney, I can get the whole setup now for $488.35
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11-15-2013, 12:39 PM
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$250.00 complete air bag set for a half ton.
Seen a set for $210.00 as well.
No compressor tho.
Not sure how that's double but hey .....
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11-15-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
$250.00 complete air bag set for a half ton.
Seen a set for $210.00 as well.
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$217.50 extra for onboard compressor.
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11-15-2013, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
$217.50 extra for onboard compressor.
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$50.00 for an air-lift brand compressor
Firestone ride rite comp. $70.00
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11-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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I'm not surprised that prices are better in the US. The cheapest bags I could find in Canada were $400. Just bags, no compressor. I assumed the Old guy was referring to the cost of compressor and remote access . That is a very good price, by the way. And if you suggest to order online, shipping and duty charges will not make it worthwhile. Also, I think Timbrens is a Canadian product and I bet they are cheaper in the US as well. We do have Mayor Rob Ford though.
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11-15-2013, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugged Brown
I'm not surprised that prices are better in the US. The cheapest bags I could find in Canada were $400. Just bags, no compressor. I assumed the Old guy was referring to the cost of compressor and remote access . That is a very good price, by the way. And if you suggest to order online, shipping and duty charges will not make it worthwhile. Also, I think Timbrens is a Canadian product and I bet they are cheaper in the US as well. We do have Mayor Rob Ford though.
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Come to the rally in goshen next year and I'll sell you a set ! 
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11-15-2013, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Come to the rally in goshen next year and I'll sell you a set ! |
Price the Timbrens for me and I might buy them from you.
2010 F250 4x4 Crew Cab .
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11-15-2013, 12:53 PM
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Timbren, I highly recommend them, they are one my 2010 F250 without any problems. I like that they don't come into play until you load it. Also they are a piece of cake to install, just remove the stock rubber stops and install these in the same spot.
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11-15-2013, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlyRetirement
What’s wrong with either one of them...nothing. It is a matter of preference. I like the fact that the Timbrens are on there if needed, and if they are not needed they are just a normal bump stop. I appreciate the zero maintenance, nothing to breakdown concept that the Tinbrens carry. Anyone who has a 2011+ Super Duty knows that Ford took out a leaf in the rear to accommodate the yuppies with tender hind parts, so sag on these model years is a problem. I have had over 4000 lbs in the bed of my 2011 F250 and the Timbrens stopped the sag and controlled the load. If you load your truck to the point where it continues to sag after hitting the Timbrens, there is something terribly wrong with your truck, Timbrens, or you are fantastically over loaded. For more money, airbags do the same thing with the added convenience of adjustability.
“I still say that you should not have a sag with either system in use.”
This is true of airbags, not Timbrens. In order for the Timbrens to function as intended there is roughly and 1 1/2” gap between the Timbren itself and the bump stop perch. Ask anyone who has ordered the wrong size Timbrens about how it feels always riding on them, it sucks big time, very harsh. This is not how they were designed to work, it is in fact how airbags were designed to work, always on. The 1 1/2” gap allows for normal suspension travel without hitting the Timbren.
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Wow, I never knew they took out a leaf on the 2011 and up. Glad I have a 2010.
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11-15-2013, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugged Brown
Price the Timbrens for me and I might buy them from you.
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$280.00 for a rear set of timbrens for a 2010 ford f250.
HMMMMM
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11-15-2013, 01:11 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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$215.00 for air lift bag kit.
1 hour to install mine.
I think the "timbrens" are cheaper doesnt quite hold water.....
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11-15-2013, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
$215.00 for air lift bag kit.
1 hour to install mine.
I think the "timbrens" are cheaper doesnt quite hold water.....
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Obviously a kink in the rule of thumb that things are cheaper in the US. I can get them here for $199. Still holding water.
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11-15-2013, 01:24 PM
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11-15-2013, 01:34 PM
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Thats a lot of parts on them airbags. Any pieces left over?
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