Tires

grayfox · 05-23-2014, 04:38 PM

FYI

10 Things to Know About HD Truck Tires - PickupTrucks.com News

**Herk7769** · 05-23-2014, 04:45 PM

I agree with ALL of the comments.

Number 8 is wrong. If you are only replacing 2 new tires, they should go on the rear and not the front even in front wheel drive cars.

OldCoot · 05-23-2014, 05:02 PM

I think #8 is partially correct. Better tread on the front will help prevent hydroplaning and it is easier to control a flat or blowout on the rear. I would always put the best tires on the front regardless of the drive axle being front or rear.

tjm · 05-23-2014, 08:01 PM

8 is wrong. The last sentence in number 8 explains why the new tires go in the rear. You can feel and recover if the front hydroplanes. But if the rear hydroplanes....it's over... This video explains it. Install Two New Tires on the Rear Axle - YouTube

OldCoot · 05-23-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tjm

8 is wrong. The last sentence in number 8 explains why the new tires go in the rear. You can feel and recover if the front hydroplanes. But if the rear hydroplanes....it's over... This video explains it. Install Two New Tires on the Rear Axle - YouTube

Agree with the hydroplaning, but not if you have a flat from my experience. I was also taught how to control a loose rear end, but you can't control a loose front end especially if it's hydroplaning. A very controversial subject. Due to my driving experiences, if I can only replace two, I will continue to put them on the front. Never had to before as I always replace all 4.

**Herk7769** · 05-23-2014, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tjm

8 is wrong. The last sentence in number 8 explains why the new tires go in the rear. You can feel and recover if the front hydroplanes. But if the rear hydroplanes....it's over... This video explains it. Install Two New Tires on the Rear Axle - YouTube

I am with Tim on this because it matches what I have always been taught.

MillerTime · 05-23-2014, 10:52 PM

Im with OC on this one. I'd rather my rear hit a ditch than the front.
I know discount tires policy is that new tires go on the rear, but my best tread gets sent up front.

MillerTime · 05-23-2014, 11:04 PM

Never heard of the drive train issues on #2. Of course 4 matching tires is always preferred. But...
Some auto manufacturers will tell you to place mis-sized tires on the rear (ie. Spares) to retain steering control. And I havent seen any vehicles with locked diffs other than drag racers and offroad trucks. And even on front wheel drive vehicles your tires will turn at differing amounts of rotations from cornering and curves in the road. Of couse it makes a huge difference on duallys though, on other tire wear.

- but dont really mater what I think, nobody's publishing my recomendations! But at least they got 10 points to talk about that way!! Lol!!

MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!

SKnight · 05-23-2014, 11:48 PM

The new tires need to go up front, per what I was taught. In inclement weather the front tires are under greater forces than the rears especially when braking, thus we need the greater wet traction up front.

The industry has flipped on this three times I'm aware of and might change tomorrow. Plus in 7,500 miles or so you're going to rotate the tires, what then?

The worn out tire against the new tire on the drive axle isn't a concern either, that 3/8" difference in tread won't make a significant difference in revs per mile, not enough to hurt the diff. Now on a dually the new tire can't go against an old tire on the same side, the new tire will get wiped off quickly, experienced that one first hand.

Cajun Po-Boy · 05-24-2014, 06:18 AM

In the past, tire dealers I have been too have had a policy that if you are replacing only two tires on your vehicle...they will only install them on the front...I agree!

**Herk7769** · 05-24-2014, 06:35 AM

Just had two new tires put on the truck. Costco put them on the rear without so much as a "by your leave."

TireRack agrees.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

OldCoot · 05-24-2014, 06:55 AM

A blowout on the front is much harder to control than if it's on the rear, so, regardless of the hydroplaning argument, which IMO is baloney, I'll still put the new ones on the front. Oversteer is much easier to control than understeer on any road condition.

garbonz · 05-24-2014, 07:04 AM

The confusion started with the advent of the front wheel drive cars and it has taken a long time for the science to catch up. There is a clear advantage in wet conditions for new tires in the rear.. BUT, not so in snow, where traction of the drive wheels are concerned and both FRD and AWD benefit from the new tread in the front. For towing, the best tires should be in the rear where the most load is.

itat · 05-24-2014, 07:59 AM

Every NASCAR fan knows if you're only taking 2 tires they go on the right side!!

acadianbob · 05-24-2014, 11:27 AM

Virtually all cars (at least American made) have understeer designed into them because it is deemed safer for the bulk of automobile operators (not drivers). If the rear end lets go, most people would have no clue how to recover the vehicle. The new tires should be on the rear.

I can see where people with front drive cars would disagree. But, I've had my share of front drivers and I'll tell you that when you have less traction at the rear, and it lets go, it goes FAST. And you better be a driver not an operator when that happens.

SKnight · 05-24-2014, 11:30 AM

Reality is, if your two old tires are in such sad shape that they're going to spin you out if on the incorrect axle, they should have been replaced anyhow.

That's just uncommon sense, if your tires are dangerous then they're dangerous no matter where they are.

itat · 05-24-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SKnight

Reality is, if your two old tires are in such sad shape that they're going to spin you out if on the incorrect axle, they should have been replaced anyhow.

That's just uncommon sense, if your tires are dangerous then they're dangerous no matter where they are.

X2

Let's look at this from a different perspective. If I'm riding my motorcycle, I can handle the rear tire (drive wheel) losing grip. The last thing I want is the front tire to lose grip.

RhoZeta · 05-24-2014, 01:53 PM

Gimme new tires on front....

OldCoot · 05-24-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by acadianbob

Virtually all cars (at least American made) have understeer designed into them because it is deemed safer for the bulk of automobile operators (not drivers). If the rear end lets go, most people would have no clue how to recover the vehicle. The new tires should be on the rear.

I can see where people with front drive cars would disagree. But, I've had my share of front drivers and I'll tell you that when you have less traction at the rear, and it lets go, it goes FAST. And you better be a driver not an operator when that happens.

I would say whomever taught those people to drive were seriously negligent in teaching. I was taught how to control the rear end sliding both left and right as part of learning to drive before I was allowed to even think about getting my drivers license.

MillerTime · 05-24-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OldCoot

I would say whomever taught those people to drive were seriously negligent in teaching. I was taught how to control the rear end sliding both left and right as part of learning to drive before I was allowed to even think about getting my drivers license.

Growing up driving on dirt roads and racing on dirt helps you learn this real quick, huh!!

MillerTime- Future Sabre Handler!!

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