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Old 07-13-2015, 12:16 PM   #1
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to dually or not to dually

We started looking at 5'ers this weekend to upgrade our TT. They're ranging from 34' - 38' footers. They're grossing from 15 - 17k. I know that a dually would provide stability, but the truck will also be my daily driver, which I drove mostly to baseball practice and some non camping weekends.

At what size and weight should I really consider a DRW over a SRW? I'm looking to upgrade to my 2014 1500 as well to a 2500 crew cab or maybe a 3500 with a larger payload depending on the 5'er
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:22 PM   #2
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For stability the 1 ton dually is great but for a daily driver I'd think about the 1 ton SRW. Later RJD
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:49 PM   #3
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The 3500 SRW is a good option if you really dont want a DRW. The 5th wheels tow so stable already. At that weight, you will need a 1 ton, regardless. If you go 3500 SRW and find that you need more load down the road, 19.5 wheel/tire conversion is a great route. I had that on my 09 3500 and the load rating was crazy and the tires last forever.
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:03 PM   #4
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I have had both and wouldn't do with out a drw for towing ,only draw back is parking lot.
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:30 PM   #5
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When in doubt go with a dually!
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:40 PM   #6
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The dually will be the 'answer all' when it comes to towing. Higher payload, lower differential gear, and most likely a larger tank. With the weights you are talking about, DRW will be your best option plus leaves room for upgrading. Your only negative is just going to be fuel consumption when not towing. It's still going to suck.....but who are we kidding...we don't get into RV'ing to save fuel.
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:45 PM   #7
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Love my dually. After years of pulling many different trailers, and two years pulling my model trailer with an f250, I went to a GMC 3500 drw. It's so much more stable, tires seem to west much better (that'll help with the need to buy two extra when it comes time), and I love the milage I get with my duramax/Allison combo. Unless you live in the city and parking is an issue, can't go wrong with drw.
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The dually will be the 'answer all' when it comes to towing. Higher payload, lower differential gear, and most likely a larger tank. With the weights you are talking about, DRW will be your best option plus leaves room for upgrading. Your only negative is just going to be fuel consumption when not towing. It's still going to suck.....but who are we kidding...we don't get into RV'ing to save fuel.

With the Chevy/GMC, all the HDs have a 38 gallon tank regardless of 2500, 3500 SRW or DRW as of 2008 and newer.

Paul, I like the upgrading down the road! LOL He's already looking at up to a 17K unit..... Not much bigger then those! LOL
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Having towed my current trailer with both a 3500 SRW and my current DRW I'd say go with the dually. I find it much more stable through bumps, on the SRW if hitting bumps on a corner you would feel side to side sway. With the dually it's solid.

Of course as mentioned parking in a parking lot is interesting. My crew cab long box dually is a daily driver. Haven't regretted it yet, just park further from the entrance when going to the mall or work.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:01 PM   #10
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With srw you will want to pay special attention to GVWR. Also the weight on the single rear tires. Also 3.73 or 4.10 rear differential to get you tow rating, gas or diesel also will matter.
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A SRW 1 ton 4 door CC short box is gonna weigh in around 8,400 lbs. ready to travel. That will allow you 2,600 - 2,800 lbs for your hitch. That would be my starting point.
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New here, but my dually is a daily driver. Love the Duramax/Allison combo and liked the Fords I test drove as well.

Pros - in Texas, there are many many duallys even in the city. Stability is fantastic. Very comfortable drive at highway speeds loaded or not.

Cons - Back into most parking spots or park out a ways and pull through. Get as high as 23mpg at 55 mph highway speeds. Only 17 mpg at 75.

Personal note: We got tired of always stepping up in class to get more payload and capacity. Finally went straight to the top and don't regret it.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:53 PM   #13
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We have been test driving 1T 3500 RAM trucks - I have driven both the SRW & DRW (and 8' bed versions at that! )

You know what? I could not tell the difference between the DRW/SRW! Neither could the DW when she drove it and backed it up. I could totally see this as a daily driver (and if we go FT in 2018 it WILL be the DD ) The ride is great (we are looking at a Laramie Longhorn) and just as comfortable as out current Truck.

Unless your daily commute is downtown NYC or the like, what's the deal? shoot, even with the F150 we find ourselves parking in the "Truck parking lot" when we go to the stores and malls. Besides, the walk will do ya good!
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Dually. As a matter of fact, my combo will be for sale in favor of a motorhomes. 14 Ram 3500 Dually, 14 Heritage Glen 5er.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:05 PM   #15
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I have had both. I had a dually that was best tow vehicle I had far as stability and confidence. The outside duals track in the same tracks as the trailer tires was the first thing I noticed. Much easier pulling trailer and keeping in you lane. As far as around town and parking it really was not any harder than the 2500 with the same lenght bed and cab. The overall length of truck gives me parking problems more than the width. As a side note you don't get bullied nearly as bad with a dually as you do single wheel. You are less likely to need air bags on a dually compared to a 2500. If you are around 2000 pound hitch weight a 2500 will sit down on the overloads or real close and those over loads are harsh. The 3500 can go over 2500 no problem at least that is high as I have pulled and it did fine. Not going by spec numbers but from past practice. Some of the new 2500's have air ride also and that may be a good deal don't know.
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I just bought a SRW F 250. Daily Driver for me for 10 more years and parking was a large concern. This truck will tow 16,000 as long as I keep the pin weight reasonable. Will do just fine and does provide upgrade path from my current Rockwood.

They are doing a Super Duty redesign soon and everyone know boys love their toys so this truck will last till I retire!! in 10 years so the DW says..
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I went through 4 dually extended/double cabs, gas (chev 454) and diesel (Ford 7.3, 2 Cummins 5.9) and now have a SWB GMC 2500HD Duramax. Towed 5er's with all, and hay trailers with all. Dually makes big difference with ball hitch hay trailers, but little to none with a 5er. If I had to trade I would go for a SWB SRW GMC 3500 Crew Duramax with my current Super Glide slider hitch, unless I needed more pin weight capacity. Main issue with a dually is how much casual driving you will do. If you plan to use it for grocery shopping, visiting the casino, going to ball games and such, a dually is a real pain. If commuting back and forth to work, parking in a large parking lot, and towing - no real problem. If you might want to tow a ball mount 14k hay trailer, dually is a no brainer. Also, if you would like to look "studly" while tooling through Sonic, dually is best.
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I'll be the oddball and say SRW 2500. I have a 2007 Chevy Classic Duramax crew cab 2500. Just bought a 2015 Chevy Duramax crew cab 2500. Both pull our Sandpiper 365SAQ quite well.

When I was looking at pickups, I am almost positive that the 2500 and 3500 SRW short bed crew cab trucks both had the same 5th wheel trailer capacity of 17,500 lbs. I think the only difference was the 3500 has overload springs.

There is a huge difference between the 2007 and 2015 on how they handle the trailer. Both have airbags, but the exhaust brake on the 2015 helps here in the west with mountain passes. I have to sometimes accelerate down hills!

I use both of my trucks as daily drivers and really didn't want the 8' bed. I also am a farmer and a DRW is worthless in mud and snow. These are my work trucks, so for 15% of my total miles, I get along just fine with SRW. They also pull much heavier gooseneck trailers and I have not found myself wanting a DRW yet
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A SRW 1 ton 4 door CC short box is gonna weigh in around 8,400 lbs. ready to travel. That will allow you 2,600 - 2,800 lbs for your hitch. That would be my starting point.
My yellow sticker said 3744 and on the scales loaded to go camping was 8200 lbs and my CCC according to the scales was 3200 lbs.
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Hi the dully wheels are a real trip in the winter snow. The truck has way to much tire in the back for its weight. In snow the rear end floats on top of the snow and dose not sink in to get a good bite. This makes the truck very hard to drive in the snow or if there is a lot of water on the road it will hydroplane. With the tt on the back it is very stable and you don't get blown around much. Make sure you get a limited slip rear end! If it is a standard rear end you can get stuck on flat wet grass old truck this was a big problem. Or 4 wheel drive but gas mileage will suffer.

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