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Old 09-21-2021, 03:03 PM   #1
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Pulling a 2015 windjammer 3008W, 34.5’ length, about 8,000# weight (loaded).
Trying to decide between a 2017 Toyota Tundra SR5 with Class IV tow package vs a 2015 GMC 2500 HD gasoline with tow package. From a power and stable towing platform, which is better? Thanks!
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:04 PM   #2
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For that size trailer, 3/4 ton at a minimum.
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:12 PM   #3
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HUGE Tundra fan here, but that trailer is too much for a half ton truck. I'd go with an HD.
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:38 PM   #4
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Forget the Tundra, the trailer's loaded tongue weight will exceed its payload capacity, once humans and truck cargo is added.
Tundras are notorious for low payload capacities. Maybe the 2022 Tundras will have that addressed.
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I definitely would go with the 2500 at that weight/length of a trailer.
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That is pretty much in the middle between my old and new TT and I would have to agree with a 3/4 ton plus.

We had a 2014 chevy 3/4 and hated the ride not towing so we went to a well equipped for towing F150 and had to downsize the TT as we are not going back to a 3/4 tone truck unless it was just used for towing, however then we would get a MH instead.
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:09 PM   #7
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Thank you for your replies, it seems the 3/4- ton minimum hands down. Now to find one we can afford��
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:42 PM   #8
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Thank you for your replies, it seems the 3/4- ton minimum hands down. Now to find one we can afford��
Unfortunately, this is a bad time to buying a truck. The supply/demand imbalance is projected to last well into 2022, and possibly even into 2023.
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Old 09-22-2021, 02:45 AM   #9
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Id go with the Chevy 2500 with the tow package. 3/4 ton will let you walk the dog, and not let the dog walk you. This is my personal opinion but I think once you get over 7,500 lbs., ought to consider 3/4 ton territory. I'm using a 1/2 ton to pull my 24RLXL around and would imagine a longer or heavier trailer would most likely be pushing it. My Ram is rated at 8500 max tow since I have street gears (3.21) in it, I personally like to stay at least 1,000 lbs. away from max. If you run things at Max at the time, your just going to stress stuff out and lead to some failure long-term.
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Seriously ? Everyone is saying 8000 lbs is too much for any halfton ?
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Seriously ? Everyone is saying 8000 lbs is too much for any halfton ?


The issue is most often NOT the hauling capability, but rather the available cargo capacity for the truck. If the tongue weight was 10% or 800 lbs, you’d have used half of a 1,600 lb payload (example number). If each of two passengers weighed 250 lbs, that leaves 300 lbs for additional cargo in the truck. If the WDH weighs 100 lbs, you’re down to 200 lbs for additional cargo.
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Seriously ? Everyone is saying 8000 lbs is too much for any halfton ?
An 8000 lb trailer would over gross my 2016 Silverado 1500. My 2019 Silverado 1500 with the max trailering package would probably remain within all the limits, but it's still a light duty pickup. Short trips would be fine, but I wouldn't want to tow a trailer that heavy all over the country year after year. The cumulative wear and tear would simply grind it down. A 3/4 ton truck would be much more suitable for the long term.
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Seriously ? Everyone is saying 8000 lbs is too much for any halfton ?
Probably not too much for a F150 HDPP, no idea if dodge or GM have something similar.

It also depends what you are towing, a 10k boat is probably not an issue.

With a TT it is also (or more) a factor of the length. My prior TT was too long and to get it stable required about 17% which was too heavy for the payload.

My current trailer is 32' and 8000lbs gross and it tows well with my truck. I could never get the old trailer 37' and 9500lbs gross to be consistently safe to tow. My true safe limit is probably between these two but how do you know where.
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Sold on the 3/4-ton! Now how about comments on a 2015 GMC 2500 Denali 6.2 gas VS a 2014 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Cost differential $4k higher on diesel, but mileage differential 40k lower on the diesel. Consider I’ll tow 12k miles/yr. Thanks
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Sold on the 3/4-ton! Now how about comments on a 2015 GMC 2500 Denali 6.2 gas VS a 2014 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Cost differential $4k higher on diesel, but mileage differential 40k lower on the diesel. Consider I’ll tow 12k miles/yr. Thanks


Get the 6.7 Cummins. You will be glad you did
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Sold on the 3/4-ton! Now how about comments on a 2015 GMC 2500 Denali 6.2 gas VS a 2014 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Cost differential $4k higher on diesel, but mileage differential 40k lower on the diesel. Consider I’ll tow 12k miles/yr. Thanks
You'll likely see a 30% improvement in towing MPG with the diesel.
-12000 miles @ 10 miles per gallon for gas is 1200 gallons x $3.50 per gallon you're at $4200
-12000 miles @ 13 miles per gallon for diesel is 923 gallons X $3.75 per gallon you're at $3461

You're savings on fuel is $739 per year with the diesel.

If you're going diesel, Cummins is probably the best choice and if it's older and does need DEF, all the better.
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Sold on the 3/4-ton! Now how about comments on a 2015 GMC 2500 Denali 6.2 gas VS a 2014 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Cost differential $4k higher on diesel, but mileage differential 40k lower on the diesel. Consider I’ll tow 12k miles/yr. Thanks

Been where you are with this decision a few years ago. The truck with the 6.7 Cummins is superior to the gas engine. I've towed fifth wheels with both engines and will never go back to a gasser.

I know owners that've had their Cummins trucks for many years and hundreds of thousands of miles and plan to keep 'em for many more because they're such work horses. With a gas engine, you won't get anywhere near the torque output of a Cummins diesel.

The diesel engine can be a bit more costly to buy, to fuel up, and to repair, but well worth it compared to a gas engine. I'm actually surprised the difference between the two is so little. Although the fuel costs more, you'll go further on a full tank with the Cummins. Not only will you get better gas mileage while towing, diesel trucks normally have larger fuel tanks than their gas counterparts. Plus, even though repairs costs more, the engine will last longer than the gasser because its designed for the heavy wear and tear of towing.

Also, a diesel truck will allow you to move to a larger RV, if you wish to do so three or five years from now. For any RV larger than what you're looking to buy now will likely require you to upgrade again to a diesel truck down the road.
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The new 6.6 gas gm is a good choice. Gets about 25% better fuel economy than my 2014 gm hd did with the 6.0 and 4.10 gears. Tow capacity on conventional towing is 14.5K.

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Old 09-24-2021, 01:13 PM   #19
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Sold on the 3/4-ton! Now how about comments on a 2015 GMC 2500 Denali 6.2 gas VS a 2014 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Cost differential $4k higher on diesel, but mileage differential 40k lower on the diesel. Consider I’ll tow 12k miles/yr. Thanks
Just check the payload rating on the Ram. A family member has a 2018 Ram 3/4 ton with CTD and its payload rating is only 2149 lbs. That's only 239 lbs more than my Silverado 1500. The Denali will have a much higher payload rating.
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The only thing I will add is always buy more truck than you CURRENTLY NEED. Reason being, you will ultimately most often down the road buy something bigger to tow and you have to repeat again the entire process. Too much truck in payload and power and towing ability better than something that will easily work for your need but close in rating of what you have. Just my two cents and not worth a plug nickel in most circles.
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