Towing 10k lbs with a 2019 RAM 1500

[Mike134]

Originally Posted by corn18

Airliners are operated/maintained by highly trained individuals. In addition, all aircraft are tested to determine the actual limits of every system. There are processes and procedures to monitor mechanical performance and regular maintenance is performed to prevent failures. The checklists used to operate and maintain a commercial airliner are developed and approved by subject matter experts. Plus the government likes to play a role in the safety of airline travel. This applies to every aircraft and person who has anything to do with commercial air travel.

How much of that can be said about every single vehicle pulling a trailer on the road today?

Maybe not


https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...4-998798e8f9db

[corn18]

Originally Posted by Mike134

Maybe not


https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/lo...4-998798e8f9db

I can file a lawsuit for $0.55. Doesn't mean the whole airline industry is incompetent.

[youroo]

Originally Posted by wmtire

Yeah as Youroo pointed out, I think they were all some kind of HD package, but don't quote me on that. Maybe a Ford enthusiast knows the details

Thanks for Posting those FORD 7 lug Pics! I know they still installed them in 2017! Youroo!!

[Lins]

Originally Posted by wmtire

I remember the first Ford's that came in our tire shop with those seven lug wheels. Our local water company had bought several and we had a service contract with them. My guy came to tell me about it and I called him a liar till I walked out and saw for myself. I don't run across these much anymore, but see them come in every now and again.

I remember when they showed up on those droopy-nosed F150s. My brother in law might actually have one as a bush truck.

[67L48]

Ahh, I get it. So, by “F-150s have 7 lug wheels,” it was meant that an F-150 could have 7 lugs if the person special ordered an HDPP or found one of these unicorns in the wild. Got it. Good to know we’re using the exception to drive the rule.

[wmtire]

Originally Posted by 67L48

Ahh, I get it. So, by “F-150s have 7 lug wheels,” it was meant that an F-150 could have 7 lugs if the person special ordered an HDPP or found one of these unicorns in the wild. Got it. Good to know we’re using the exception to drive the rule.

That's not the way I read it at all. I read it to be that they were pointing out the "heavy" as in heavy duty(HD) versions of 1/2 ton trucks From GM and Ford had 8 and 7 lug wheels respectively. That does seem to be true in my experience and the trucks I see in my business.

Now putting the moderator hat on. The site team sees a lot of these truck/towing threads getting hijacked by a few members who seem to try and " force" their opinions and sometimes limited experiences on to others. They then double, triple, and quadruple down on their opinions. When we see that these hijacked threads are becoming a circle argument between a few, we will either close the thread or delete posts that are against the site guidelines.

As per the guidelines, state your "opinion" as it is to you or your experience, then move on. Truck and towing threads seem to bring out passionate responses from some who tend to get caught up in these passions and forget that the purpose of this community is to share knowledge and to learn from one another. This sharing needs to always be done in a friendly and productive way.

[itat]

In 2016, when I discovered how overloaded my 2009 F-150 was with the new-to-me TT, I looked into the Heavy Duty Payload Package (with 7-lug wheels) since it gives you a near 3/4 ton payload number - actually more than a 3/4 ton diesel. They are very rare on the used vehicle market around here. In fact, I never saw one and still haven't. So 67L48 calling them a "unicorn" isn't far off. That may be due to a couple of factors. First, to get that package you can't have a higher trim level like the Lariat. You might be able to get an XLT. Most F-150 owners love their bling. Second, the cost of the HDPP package probably puts you close to the price of an F-250 that comes with heavier duty everything. So buyers who need the HDPP probably just opt to get a F-250 instead. The HDPP may get better fuel economy when not towing assuming you get it with the 5.0L or Ecoboost engine vs. the 6.2L gas engine in a F-250, but that's the only advantage I can think of.

[bikendan]

I also think that the HDPP F150 is a unicorn because those that have them, love them and don't want to get rid of them.
They are also ordered by those that know the value of extra payload.

[corn18]

Originally Posted by bikendan

I also think that the HDPP F150 is a unicorn because those that have them, love them and don't want to get rid of them.
They are also ordered by those that know the value of extra payload.

Damned expensive unicorn. Just priced a 2019 F150 w/ HDPP in the lowest trim allowed (XLT) and it came out @ $51k.

[wmtire]

Just had a seven lug rim come in this morning and it made me think of this thread

[Dwjackson59]

Even with today's big 1/2 ton ratings and key correct upgrades 10k is alot for a half ton. Good luck.