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10-08-2020, 07:31 PM
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Location: US of A
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Towing a 5th wheel with RAM Boxes
Who out there tows a 5th wheel with a RAM Box configuration? I would like to know what is the best setup. What to look for and what not to look for. I was told towing 5th is tricky with RAM Boxes and this is why you cant get a 5th wheel package from the factory.
Example: Goose or 5th whats is better with RAM Box? Why?
Thx!
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10-08-2020, 08:50 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Williston, ND
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I went from a 5th wheel to a pull type camper because I couldn't turn with the new truck with ram boxes. Then I researched Ram forums and saw how to make it work.
I bought a 5th wheel that has the wedge that goes in the fifth wheel plate and pivots on the pin box. I also found out you can add the factory in bed 5th wheel prep kit and I am alot happier with this setup. If I trade this truck in, I am going to go with a 6.4, 8 speed, 4.10 gearing, 8 ft box, and skip the Ram Boxes. I can better utilize the box space for a water tank and my generator.
I had a gooseneck adapter on the previous 5th wheel and that didn't give me any more clearance for turning.
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10-09-2020, 06:24 AM
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I have a 24rl 5th wheel and tow with my 6' 4" Ram truck. I use a Curt A16 hitch with a slider. I use the slider in the rear position for hook up then slide forward for towing. You can't leave the tail gate down and load with the hitch forward. I also use a Morryde rubber (1621) pin box to cushion the chucking....works well.
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10-09-2020, 07:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Williston, ND
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Does your Ram pickup have the Ram Box storage boxes? That's where things get tricky. The slider is only helping with the clearance on the cab, not on the sides.
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10-09-2020, 09:00 PM
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No it does not. Can't that be adjusted by pin height?
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10-10-2020, 08:37 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Williston, ND
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No, the pin box sits below the pickup bed as it extends back, so with a narrower box, turning angles are limited. My previous 5th wheel also has a gooseneck adapter and that didn't change anything either. The pin box was still sitting well below the top of the pickup box.
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10-10-2020, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Clemetson
No, the pin box sits below the pickup bed as it extends back, so with a narrower box, turning angles are limited. My previous 5th wheel also has a gooseneck adapter and that didn't change anything either. The pin box was still sitting well below the top of the pickup box.
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The box is no narrower with Ram boxes
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10-10-2020, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boydn1
The box is no narrower with Ram boxes
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The bed is narrower with Ram boxes. We have them on our 1500 but not on the 3500. I don’t think you can pull a 5 Th with the boxes. Turning would be very restricted.
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10-10-2020, 07:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Newsoms
The bed is narrower with Ram boxes. We have them on our 1500 but not on the 3500. I don’t think you can pull a 5 Th with the boxes. Turning would be very restricted.
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Please explain there’s our bed is 48” with the ram box and your bed is 48” between the wheel wells. 48” is 48”
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10-10-2020, 07:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Williston, ND
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This photo shows just how much narrower the interior of the box gets with Ram Box.
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10-10-2020, 07:45 PM
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Location: Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Clemetson
This photo shows just how much narrower the interior of the box gets with Ram Box.
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This.
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10-10-2020, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Clemetson
This photo shows just how much narrower the interior of the box gets with Ram Box.
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The area in front of and behind the wheel wells don’t matter. The fifth wheel hitch goes between the wells. There’s lots of people out there pulling 5er with Ram boxes. Shan’t argue with you, way too much proof with a simple search. Peace
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10-11-2020, 10:01 AM
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Location: Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boydn1
The area in front of and behind the wheel wells don’t matter. The fifth wheel hitch goes between the wells. There’s lots of people out there pulling 5er with Ram boxes. Shan’t argue with you, way too much proof with a simple search. Peace
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I’m just tell you the boxes take up part of the bed. I don’t have to search, I have one of each sitting out side right now.
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10-11-2020, 10:14 AM
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Location: Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boydn1
The area in front of and behind the wheel wells don’t matter. The fifth wheel hitch goes between the wells. There’s lots of people out there pulling 5er with Ram boxes. Shan’t argue with you, way too much proof with a simple search. Peace
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Perhaps we are talking about different things. The Ram boxes are on each side of the bed. There is approximately 9in difference from center of bed to side rail with the box so almost, if not definitely, impossible to turn a 5th without hitting the side rail.
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10-11-2020, 10:24 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Williston, ND
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There is a lot of misinformation about this subject. Because of that, I traded to a newer pickup with Ram Boxes with the dealer telling me that my 5th wheel would be fine. Well as you know, it wasn't and I ended up trading to a new 5th wheel with the pivoting pin box. Expensive, but you have to upgrade sooner or later anyway.
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10-11-2020, 11:37 AM
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Like to follow this post as I also have the RamBoxes. We have considered going back to a 5th wheel in the near future.
Gary
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10-11-2020, 12:00 PM
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Location: Williston, ND
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You can use any type of plate for your truck. I installed the pucks that come with a new 5th wheel prepped Ram myself, because I wanted a clear box when the plate wasn't in the box. Google the install of that, and you will find you tube videos on that. The key point to making it all work is getting the sidewinder style pin box on the 5th wheel so you can turn the thing.
When I pull the 5th wheel plate out in the fall, I put a rubber mat in the box and it covers up all of my puck and gooseneck holes.
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