Towing Vibe with Pathfinder

[CampNHeims]

Hi there.....can someone assist with a review of mine as well? Below are the details:

2020 Vibe 18RB 4600 dry weight. You can see the hitched up weights, using the Blue Ox W/D Hitch at the CAT Scale attached. I unhitched and you can also see the re-weigh with just the TV.

TV 2019 Nissan Pathfinder with tow package and transmission cooler. 6,000 lb towing max, 11,000 lb all in weight rating.

This CAT weigh in was fully loaded as will be used....for both the TT and TV. There was no skimping....clearly!

Your feedback is appreciated!

[upflying]

What's the payload on your Pathfinder?
You are just 260lbs under the 11,000lb GCVWR.

[CampNHeims]

Making sure I'm answering your question.....the Pathfinder GVWR is 5986. The actual weight is 5220....you can see it in the CAT document. Yes....11,000 is the total combined max. I'm under the front axel, rear axel, trailer, and total.....so am I good to go?

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by CampNHeims

Making sure I'm answering your question.....the Pathfinder GVWR is 5986. The actual weight is 5220....you can see it in the CAT document. Yes....11,000 is the total combined max. I'm under the front axel, rear axel, trailer, and total.....so am I good to go?

He's asking what your car"s payload sticker says.
It'll say something like "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs".
It's on the driver's door or door frame.

Something doesn't make sense unless you weighed the car with people and stuff in it.
If the car's GVWR is 5986 and it scaled at 5220. Which only leaves 766lbs of payload.

[CurtPutnam]

Since you say were loaded as for a real trip and since you are so close to GCVWR I;ll ask a couple questions. Are your tires rated for the weight? Is your receiver rated for the tongue weight? 766 lbs available payload seems like a lot - are you sure?

Assuming those answers are good then I'm going to opine that you are probably good to go but would like to hear from a few more expert folks here. Being so close to limits all the way around, I do hope you will take it slow and easy when towing.

[CampNHeims]

Yes sir.....it's 5986

[CampNHeims]

Sorry.....sow the additional posts and want to make sure I'm clear.

We were fully loaded TV and Trailer on the way to a trip when I stopped at the scales. The max TV cargo/weight is 5986. Loaded with us and stuff it was 5220, shown on the post.

The tongue weight of the trailer is 450, TV is rated at 600. With weight distribution....you can see how the car Axel's show heavier with the trailer attached, on both the front and back. Both axel weights, fully hooked up, are under the TV max rating.

I'm not within 20% for certain...but I do believe I'm under. I appreciate all feedback.

[67L48]

Originally Posted by upflying

What's the payload on your Pathfinder? [...]

Originally Posted by bikendan

He's asking what your car"s payload sticker says.
It'll say something like "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs".
It's on the driver's door or door frame. [...

Originally Posted by CampNHeims

[...] I'm not within 20% for certain...but I do believe I'm under. I appreciate all feedback.

I don’t think he wants to discuss payload/gvwr.

[upflying]

Based on your before and after axle weights, your hitch weight is 600.
2820-2680= 140
3000-2540= 460
460+140= 600

I might be wrong but your trailer weighs 5520, (600+4920)

[CampNHeims]

Here is everything associated. So the axel hitched up, minus the axel unhitched, front minus front + back minus back equals the hitch weight? And the trailer weight plus the hitch weight equals the total trailer weight? The total combined weight of 10,700......that directly related to the 11,000 max, correct?

[CampNHeims]

5986....GVWR

Originally Posted by 67L48

I don’t think he wants to discuss payload/gvwr.

[CampNHeims]

I weighed the car with load and occupants complete.....at 5220.

Originally Posted by bikendan

He's asking what your car"s payload sticker says.
It'll say something like "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs".
It's on the driver's door or door frame.

Something doesn't make sense unless you weighed the car with people and stuff in it.
If the car's GVWR is 5986 and it scaled at 5220. Which only leaves 766lbs of payload.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by CampNHeims

I weighed the car with load and occupants complete.....at 5220.

You're not understanding what payload capacity is.
5220 is the GVW. GVW is not payload capacity.
None of the stickers you posted have the payload capacity on it.
Payload capacity is vehicle GVWR minus vehicle factory curb weight.

[CampNHeims]

Curb weight is 4662. GVWR is 5986...so 1,324

Originally Posted by bikendan

You're not understanding what payload capacity is.
5220 is the GVW. GVW is not payload capacity.
None of the stickers you posted have the payload capacity on it.
Payload capacity is vehicle GVWR minus vehicle factory curb weight.

[Lins]

No need to know what your payload rating is - you’re under your axle and gvwr, but just.
You’re at your limits so you’ll probably feel that trailer. Just be careful.

[CampNHeims]

Thank you all for the info!

[67L48]

Originally Posted by bikendan

You're not understanding what payload capacity is.
5220 is the GVW. GVW is not payload capacity.
None of the stickers you posted have the payload capacity on it.
Payload capacity is vehicle GVWR minus vehicle factory curb weight.

You’re dreaming. He’s not going to go there. Usually there’s a reason when someone will discuss everything but their payload capacity.

[dbledan]

Originally Posted by 67L48

You’re dreaming. He’s not going to go there. Usually there’s a reason when someone will discuss everything but their payload capacity.

He provided curb weight as loaded and gross vehicle weight as well as stickers from TV and trailer. If you have GVWR and weighed you have better information than a payload sticker you have real world weights. He did provide payload as well but calculated it the same way the factory would have but he already has all the gear etc figured in.

He is hitting all the numbers that have been shared or can be calculated and is not over any of the provided numbers...very close but under. He is within payload, gross, gross combined, front and rear axle. The only thing I did not see was a receiver rating but if under GCVWR then it is likely fine assuming tongue weight is typical for the weight of the trailer.

Looks good to go to me. Hopefully it pulls fine too. Good luck!

[moose074]

So good thread about towing with a Pathfinder and being overweight called “ towing overweight “ lots of nesayers but op made trip just fine no problem

[CampNHeims]

Thank you and I appreciate the guidance. I *tried* to provide everything asked for to the best of my ability. There is a reason I asked the question to start with. From my research, it looked the same to me but wanted to confirm with the experts on here.....and that other knucklehead.

I'm frustrated that I cut it this close, as that was not my intent....but being new to this whole scene, I had not done enough research beyond the surface. Meaning.....listened to the dealership and took the first bit of info that came up on Google. Shame on me. That said.....I believe I'm under, although close and I'm 22ft.....so short, as it goes. I think this and the Blue Ox W/D sway control should help.

I went 65 on the hiway for an hour this week with my first trip. It seemed fine except for that 9mpg I was averaging!

I'm rolling home today and then another our away trip Tuesday. After that.....a 3 hour trip for a week. If all that seems fine....then I'm headed from Ohio to Utah. This is the reason for the double check....as I'm headed over and back through the mountains. Wyoming I 80 out and Denver I 70 back. Clearly...I'm nervous.

I do have the transmission cooler and have studied up on the low "gear" setting with my CVT transmission. Yes ...like reading Web MD....I know all the horrors as well.

I feel good pulling it and stopping. Has the electric brakes and it all seems to be stopping as one unit just fine.

I'm worried about sway. I've seen enough videos that I don't want to be that guy.

I do want to be says as possible with the rig I have at this point. Any additional thoughts are appreciated now that you have the entire situation.

Thank you all!....heck.....even the knucklehead!