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Old 10-16-2018, 01:43 PM   #1
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Towing with a 3.6 liter Jeep

Hi all. We recently are in need of a newer TV as our 2006 Durango (4.7 litre engine) was a write off in an accident. Do any of you tow a 4500 lb Shamrock with the newer Jeep or Durango with the 3.6? The dealers are all saying it will tow 6200 lbs but I drove one with a 5 speed and I don't think it will perform as well as our Durango (which had trouble uphill if there was any wind). The Shamrock has a 3" lift because some of the places we go need the clearance so it catches a little more wind than standard. Does the 8 or 9 speed (which ever it is) work better? Any and all comments welcome. Thanks.
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Hi all. We recently are in need of a newer TV as our 2006 Durango (4.7 litre engine) was a write off in an accident. Do any of you tow a 4500 lb Shamrock with the newer Jeep or Durango with the 3.6? The dealers are all saying it will tow 6200 lbs but I drove one with a 5 speed and I don't think it will perform as well as our Durango (which had trouble uphill if there was any wind). The Shamrock has a 3" lift because some of the places we go need the clearance so it catches a little more wind than standard. Does the 8 or 9 speed (which ever it is) work better? Any and all comments welcome. Thanks.
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I am towing a rockwood Roo 19 ,weighing in at 4900 lbs, with a 3.5 liter Pathfinder just fine
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The 8 speed trans will work better
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:57 AM   #4
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The Wrangler is rated for 2000 lbs on the 2 door and 3500 lbs on the 4 door.

On the Durango;
The 3.6L Pentastar® V6 engine can tow up to 6,200 pounds*.
*When properly equipped. See dealer for details.
(taken from the durango web page
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:59 PM   #5
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Tow vehicle

We tow an EPRO 19FBS that tops out just under 4,000 pounds with a 6 cylinder Durango. Pulls fine. Runs mostly in 6th gear. Oil and trans temp stay right where they should be. If I was heading out west into heat and mountains I’d probably upgrade to at least a half ton. But we have gone to Maine from Ohio and to Florida with it and had no issues.
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Where do you plan to go with it. Lots to do with what you decide. Towed a TT at around 4200lbs all over the State of Michigan with a 2001 Chevy 4.3 V6 and it did fine. But would not want to drag it through the Smoky's or Big Horn Range.
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The Wrangler is rated for 2000 lbs on the 2 door and 3500 lbs on the 4 door.

On the Durango;
The 3.6L Pentastar® V6 engine can tow up to 6,200 pounds*.
*When properly equipped. See dealer for details.
(taken from the durango web page
They are likely referring to the Grand Cherokee, not the Wrangler, when talking about towing with a Jeep.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:42 PM   #8
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So here is my set up
2018 Rubicon JLU with a factory tow setup.
I replaced the stock class 2 hitch with a class 3 Draw tite Stock number 75515.
I used a Tekonsha 3014-p wire connector from the brake controller connection (gray plug above brake pedal) too connect to a Tekonsha P3 controller .

I’m towing a 2019 ForestRiver E-Pro 19 FBS with a dry weight of about 3100lb.

I also have a Fastway E2 6k weight distribution hitch too help keep it on the road.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:58 PM   #9
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2015 Jeep JK Unlimited with 5 spd Automatic and 3.73 gears towing an -ahem- 3500# (loaded) RPod.
I bought a SuperChips Trail Dash 2 not so much as to get more power (it did give a marginal increase) but to get a towing tune which would manage the shift points of the transmission better.
We have done a couple thousand miles so far and some limited mountain running.
It does an -okay- job. Roughly 12 mpg on 92 octane fuel. 60-65 mph.
More items of interest -
Equalizer weight distribution hitch, an extended hitch shank from etrailer to get the hitch ball out from under the spare tire. Hopkins Remote trailer brake controller. AirLift air bags really help the squat.
Note, I did not have but 5 psi in the air bags when this pic was taken. 30 psi works pretty good to keep it level without putting undue pressure on the hitch via the weight distribution bars.

Is it a good tow vehicle?
Not exceptional, but adequate..
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:54 AM   #10
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The dealers are all saying it will tow 6200 lbs
Brian and Judy
Don't take the salesman's word. Have them show you the Towing Capacity in the Specs for the vehicle. If a factory "Towing Package" is available for the vehicle, make sure it is on the one you purchase.

More gears is always beneficial while towing. It allows the transmission to keep the engine in its "best performance" range for the conditions (mountains vs flats) you are towing in.
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Our 2015 Durango 3.6L AWD with factory tow package does well with our 5,000 lb GVWR 18TO and a WDH. We took it from Oklahoma to the Smokey Mountains last year with no problem. I don't run fast but usually at the speed limit.

Loaded to about 4500 lb, it does approach the tongue weight limit, but that's very floor plan dependent. The shorter wheelbase of the Grand Cherokee won't be ideal.
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Towing with a jeep

Engine and tranny wise, it will probably handle it with the good bag and wd hitch serup. What would concern me with pulling that much weight, especially in mountains, is the ability to stop that much weight.
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Another point to note about the 3.6 is this -
While it does make 285 hp in stock form, that is at 6,400 RPM. My rig stays in 3rd or 4th gear 90% of the time with some short stints of either 2nd gear or 5th.
At 5000 feet it is doing good to maintain 60mph in 3rd gear at 3,500 RPM.
The 3.6 is a short stroke, high reving engine. If the sound of it singing like Bette Midler while you’re wringing her neck doesn’t bother you, and you spend most of your time below 5,000’, you’ll probably be okay...
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2015 Jeep JK Unlimited with 5 spd Automatic and 3.73 gears towing an -ahem- 3500# (loaded) RPod.
I bought a SuperChips Trail Dash 2 not so much as to get more power (it did give a marginal increase) but to get a towing tune which would manage the shift points of the transmission better.
We have done a couple thousand miles so far and some limited mountain running.
It does an -okay- job. Roughly 12 mpg on 92 octane fuel. 60-65 mph.
More items of interest -
Equalizer weight distribution hitch, an extended hitch shank from etrailer to get the hitch ball out from under the spare tire. Hopkins Remote trailer brake controller. AirLift air bags really help the squat.
Note, I did not have but 5 psi in the air bags when this pic was taken. 30 psi works pretty good to keep it level without putting undue pressure on the hitch via the weight distribution bars.

Is it a good tow vehicle?
Not exceptional, but adequate..
I run almost the same setup. '15 JKU Rubicon w/ 5 speed auto, 3.73 gears, 3 inch lift.
The Trail Dash 2, mostly for off roading, but recently, I've used it to tune the shift points as I climb up over the Cascades here in Oregon.
The Tekonsha Primus IQ Trailer Brake Controller.
Fastway e2 WDH to take some of the squat off the back springs.
I find my setup very adequate for my purpose. Someplace to relax/sleep while off roading.

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Another point to note about the 3.6 is this -
While it does make 285 hp in stock form, that is at 6,400 RPM. My rig stays in 3rd or 4th gear 90% of the time with some short stints of either 2nd gear or 5th.
At 5000 feet it is doing good to maintain 60mph in 3rd gear at 3,500 RPM.
The 3.6 is a short stroke, high reving engine. If the sound of it singing like Bette Midler while you’re wringing her neck doesn’t bother you, and you spend most of your time below 5,000’, you’ll probably be okay...
Mine drops down to 3rd when I drive up the Willamette Pass. On most "level" roads it runs in 5th.
Never had it revved up quit as high as you described.
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More info on your trailer please...
I need to learn more about adjusting the shift points. There are times when it hangs wayyyy too long in 1st and 2nd gears.. I would rather lug it down a bit and rely on the knock sensor to retard the timing.
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More info on your trailer please...
I need to learn more about adjusting the shift points. There are times when it hangs wayyyy too long in 1st and 2nd gears.. I would rather lug it down a bit and rely on the knock sensor to retard the timing.
I tow a 2018 A122S.
Since it's just me, I don't fill the water tank over half full, use for washing purposes, (I drink & cook with bottled water).
Most of my meals are freeze dried or shelf stable food.
Clothes for the time away, laptop, camera gear, books...
So I never get close to the max weight limit of the trailer or the Jeep.

The Trail Dash in tow mode just delays the up shift points a few hundred rpms.

Having the automatic, you can manually over ride which gear you're in by bumping the shift lever, left for downshift, right for upshift.
The TCM will not let you hurt the transmission by "lugging" the engine. If it senses the rpms are to low, (and other readings) it will over ride and cause a downshift. Same as if you put it in a low gear and start going into high rpms, it will cause an upshift.
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You might could consider a larger SUV with a tow package, like a Chevrolet Tahoe or GMC Yukon. Those have the engine/transmission/rear-end ratios/payload to tow comfortably.
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[attach]works just fine
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[attach]works just fine
it appears that you have rear squat and high front bumper.

if you have a WDH, it needs adjustment.
if you don't, then you need a WDH.
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it appears that you have rear squat and high front bumper.



if you have a WDH, it needs adjustment.

if you don't, then you need a WDH.


Yes I do. Still getting camper set up with all the necessities. Only camped a few times, and the wife is still setting up house. Before the start of next season I’ll make some needed adjustments.
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