Toyota HP & TQ

[Steve09]

Does the new Toyota's do as great as peaple say? I was wanting to upgrade with something with more HP & TQ..I have a 04 F150 as does good for the most part , just a little slow on some steep grades..The toyoat has 80 more hp and more tq Was just wondering,,,,,

[amxpress]

I've got two friends with a 5.7 Tundra, towing a TT. One previously had a Chevy 1500, the other had an earlier model Tundra.
They both love their 5.7 and say there is no comparison in the additional power or performance. It's a great tow vehicle when equiped with the tow package.
I've driven both of their Tundras. If you haven't driven one yet, you owe it to yourself to try one out. I think you'll be impressed.

[bikendan]

the Tundra can't hold a candle to the F-150 Ecoboost.
if i was in the market for a new TV, that's i would be looking at.

[crocus]

My best friend pulls a fifth almost as heavy as mine with his Ecobeast and he just loves it!

[Steve09]

Really ,,,I'm a Ford guy and I wouldn't have believed that. Mine does really good except Tn. Nc. mountains (Sams Gap on the TN side) gets me down to about 35 ish at the top. Coming back is no problem, I can keep my speed up and its not as curvie. TRue ,,I do like the new Body style

[JoeR]

I've got the 5.7 Tundra double cab. 381hp and 401ft torque. I had the 7/8ths Tundra and this is a much more capable tow vehicle. I've not driven the Ecoboot yet, but plan to in the future.

And I'll give Ford a couple of years just to make sure all that stuff still works together. I still remember my old 85 Bronco slipping a timing gear chain just over a 100k. Burn me once and I'll remember you a long time afterwards.

The only thing I wish the Tundra had was a built in sway control, but that just came out a couple of years ago. I've put LT tires and Firestone airbags on, as well as a prodigy brake controller. Nothing else was needed for towing. And I love the extending mirrors. They are huge and give fantastic view of whats behind ya. And when will Toyota put a 30+ gallon tank in their trucks. 26 gallons is just annoying.

[imabmwnut]

There are a lot of threads here on tow vehicles......The half ton trucks do ok with the smaller lighter TTs. I have a friend that has a tundra and pulls a laredo and he barely has enough truck to do the job. He took the tundra from Ar to the smokies and I get better mileage with the 1ton dually than he did with the tundra. He did leave the trailer package on all the way and was getting 9MPG. My opinion is when we tow bigger is better of course the 1ton is not a daily driver either. I'm a motorhead and a maintenance guy by trade so we have to look at all of the issues when we work on something. A tow vehicle not only has to tow it also has to stop. A half ton truck will do the job but only for so long........just my opinion......oh and the 1 ton has a 56 gallon fuel tank.....

[baldy]

Being a Pontiac Vibe owner, I am a huge Toyota fan. Owning and towing with a F150, I have to say that I love my F150. I looked at the Toyota but the technology for towing is what won me over. I bought the F150 for towing and safety (IIHS). It beats everything else on the road for that. I really don't think 60 hp and 40 lb ft torque is going to make a difference when driving side by side down the road. You can only go so fast. Going up a mountain, well have at it. You would pass me anyways, because I would be stopped taking pictures!

At the end of the day, but what you like.

They all tow trailers and they all get to the destination.

Well except maybe a Dodge!! LOL!! Couldn't resist!!

[amxpress]

And the Fords are a lot better looking than the Japanese junk

Jap Junk? What planet are you from? Last time I looked, the Tundra was designed in California, built in Texas & Indiana and is more "American" than the other three domestic pick ups.
"...the F150 fell out of the rankings pretty dramatically this year. The reason? Ford’s newest F-150 uses more foreign-made parts than ever before. The “F-series” has only 55% U.S./Canadian content according to this NHTSA document (pdf). While the moniker “F-Series” includes all of Ford’s trucks, lately Ford and GM have been moving manufacturing to Mexico where workers earn $26 dollars a day instead of $26 dollars an hour."

[leencharlotte]

2010 crewmax 5.7 and i will say the engine is more than enough to tow any trailer within its rating. I tow a 36' overall, 8000lb trailer and have good acceleration and climbs the mountains around asheville, nc awesome! As for braking the brakes are 16" which is larger than other 1/2 tons. Ride is comfy, crewmax has more than enough back seat for adults (6'7" neighbor rides with room to spare)

Con. Gvwr is around 7000 and the truck off the lot was 5700-5800. So add wife, kids and tongue and at/near max and have to keep bed empty which sucks! That is my only complaint and use as my day driver

If you will be getting one couple of pieces of advise:
Tow package doesnt include tow mirrors, see if u can negotiate
My bedliner kinda sucks wish i had gotten spray in
Comes with P rated (2500# max) tires. Little squishy as a prev poster said get LT's. My tires are getting close still and got. Eyes on some LT1's

Disclaimer: within 2 years i hope to be upgrading to F350 SRW as i really want to. E able to carry items without worrying about GVWR and seeing a 5th wheel in future so that will handle that

Happy towing! And good luck on you decision

[Mountainmanbob]

Originally Posted by crocus

Fords are a lot better looking than the Japanese junk.

who we trying to fool here ??
I have owned both
and at least the 2011 Tundra
blows the Ford away with looks

and it is mostly made right here in the USA

Mountainman

[Steve09]

Thanks to you all for your opinions...Happy Camping !!

[SaskCampers]

Originally Posted by JoeR

And I'll give Ford a couple of years just to make sure all that stuff still works together. I still remember my old 85 Bronco slipping a timing gear chain just over a 100k. Burn me once and I'll remember you a long time afterwards.

You do know they all have their crosses to bear. Toyota had their famous 18RC 2 liter 4 banger that if you didn't get the timing chain replaced in the first 100k you were out the whole front cover assy when the chain got loose and beat the engine to death. GM had the camshaft debacle and on and on. I had one of those Toyota engines. Anything built in the 70's to 90's cannot be compared in any way to anything from today regardless of mfg. A good friend who is an engine rebuilder summed it up best
"They are all good till their broke, then they are all just a piece of junk"

[MtnGuy]

The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.

[Y_n_R]

Previously owned an 04 F150 5.4 and stepped into a new 2010 Toyota Dbl. cab TRD 4x4. WOW dosen,t hold a candle to my old F150. Lot's of power,and NO issues. Try it and U'll LOVE it.

[walterw11]

As far as looks, that's is just what you prefer. I was in the market for a new truck, my Chevy avalanche just didn't pull my 2608ss, 5400 lb dry, very well, I did a lot of research. Dodge great power to much of gas hog. Chevy way to much $ and in order to compete you had to put the 6.0 in it. So it came down for me to the F150 crew cab ecoboost and the Toyota 5.7 double cab. When you start talking hp and tq they are both close but the ecoboost has all of its tq at such a lower rpm. They both rode very nice I think the F150 was a little smoother and it didn't feel as big as the Tundra. I think the interior has to go to the F150, I think it looked better and felt better inside but the Tundra had way more storage than the Ford. And then when it came down to money I was able to get a lot more tuck with less money in the F150, so I ordered a 2012 F150 crew cab with ecoboost, navigation, leather, moon roof, 3.73 gears and max tow package. Msrp of 47,110 after discounts, rebates and x-plan price it is 38,250. Plus they gave me 10,500 for my trade and Toyota only would give me 9,000.

[Y_n_R]

Owned Fords for 25+ yrs, but the last Two had given me nothing but trouble. ($3k Cdn. to change 8 sparkplugs w/only 48k on them). Sorta made up my mind then that there wouldn't be anymore Fords in my driveway. Fords reply was to bad so sad. HELLO TOYOTA and lovin it.

[Rugged Brown]

Originally Posted by mtnguy

The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.

My opinion on any product I purchase is that I would rather money go into research and development rather than wages. I don't think you can draw any conclusion that because it is American made, it is better. I owned a Mexican manufactured VW for a few years. It was the best built vehicle I ever owned. The worst I owned was a Chevy van.

To get back to the topic at hand, my advice to the OP is to make a purchase of a vehicle that will meet your needs and you are happy with.

[acadianbob]

You have to strip the "nationalism" out of these arguments.

The Tundra does have a nice and powerful powertrain. But have you seen the video of the Tundra being run through the Ford test track? Make sure you watch the entire video.

Durability Testing: 2009 Ford F150 vs Toyota Tundra - YouTube

[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by mtnguy

The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.

This IS a good point. I had a neighbor once berate me for buying a Honda lawnmower who proceeded to show me his Toro. I pointed out the Kawasaki engine made in Japan. Then showed him my Honda; entirely made in America by American workers. That shut him up . . .

This is not a Made in America rant however . . .