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10-27-2017, 11:41 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Arden Hills Mn
Posts: 12
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Trade a F150 3.5 ecotec for a F350 6.7 power stroke
Having trouble decide if I want to trade my 2016 crew platinum 3.5 Ecco boost 157" loaded
With 14K miles ( smoke black exterior/brown interior) for a 2016 F350
Lariat crew 157" 6.7 power stroke with 26K miles and my favorite color
Fire engine red
Any comments would be appreciated.I like my platinum except for the
Black exterior,high maintenance.
Like the idea of the huge Hp and torque of the 6.7----saw regen issues
Which I am not familular with
What should I do. Only 4K difference to make the change
Am I nuts or what?
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10-27-2017, 11:51 AM
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Wrench Turnin Fool
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Pike and Montgomery counties PA
Posts: 688
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If you're towing with it Regen shouldn't be a problem. Regen gets to be a problem if you drive it like a car at low speed and unloaded it if you let it idle a lot
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2001 Coleman SantaFe pop up
Excited new owner of 2018 Arctic Wolf 315TBH8
Towing with a 2005 F-250 5.4 GASSER
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10-27-2017, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denver, NC
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Your going to get all kinds of opinions and questions about what you tow and whether you need the F350 and the added expense of owning a diesel my feelings are go with what makes you happy you don't have to justify your wants versus your needs to anyone.
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2016 Rockwood 2703 Emerald Edition
Husky CenterLine TS Hitch
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10-27-2017, 12:18 PM
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Wrench Turnin Fool
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Pike and Montgomery counties PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ejs4029
Your going to get all kinds of opinions and questions about what you tow and whether you need the F350 and the added expense of owning a diesel my feelings are go with what makes you happy you don't have to justify your wants versus your needs to anyone.
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Great points.
The diesel will cost more to maintain... And that Ecoboost is pretty impressive, never towed with one but my boss has a 16 expedition with it and it really hauls the mail
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Not all who wander are lost...
But I usually am
2001 Coleman SantaFe pop up
Excited new owner of 2018 Arctic Wolf 315TBH8
Towing with a 2005 F-250 5.4 GASSER
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10-27-2017, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 252
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I am a diesel guy and will tow with nothing else. However, think about the size of the 350. How often do you drive into the city? Do you ever want to park in a mall parking lot? Do you ever carry passengers who will have trouble climbing up into your truck?
This said, I will never trade my Excursion for one of those compact trucks.
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2014 Forester 2501TS
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10-27-2017, 08:36 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Rogue Valley, OR
Posts: 79
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I recently traded my 14 Ecoboost F150 for my current 17 F350 6.7. I use mine as an everyday driver and it is not an issue. I had always driven Super Duties prior to my F150 so I am completely comfortable using it that way. Basic maintenance (oil & fuel filters) is simple to do if desired, but my dealer's prices are low enough I let them deal with it.
As for work...I do tow with the truck, only about #8000 so it on the lighter side. I drive about 40 miles a day with about half of that on freeway, and the other half on county roads.
I was never really happy with the F150 plus it started giving me trouble so I don't regret my move at all
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10-27-2017, 09:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,502
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I ditched my F150 EB Platinum for a F350 Platinum 1.5 years ago. I never regretted the decision.
For the past 10 years, all 3 vehicles in our household were diesel. We had a diesel Jeep Liberty, a diesel Grand Cherokee (Merrcedes 3.0 turbo diesel is awesome), and a diesel Volkswagon with the only gasser being our 2 F150's we owned. My wife won't drive anything but a diesel. She loves the torque and acceleration that comes with it. Although the F150 EB is a competent truck, there is nothing like having over 800 ft-lbs of torque at your disposal.
I had regen issues but only at high altitude. Turned out that my MAP sensor was out of spec but not enough to trigger a check engine light.
Diesels are meant to be driven. Short trips and/or city driving are not good for the engine and the DPF will reach 100% soot level very quickly in city driving. A DPF regeneration requires at least 20-30 minutes of highway driving to complete a regen. Shutting off the engine during regen shortens the life of the expensive DPF.
Both my trucks were/are black and my only gripe is that the F350's wheels stick out a bit to the side and can throw rocks onto the rocker panel area chipping the paint. THe chips are more visible with black paint.
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10-27-2017, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lower Michigan
Posts: 1,471
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I always owned F150’s but when we retired and purchased the larger FW I needed the F350. It’s been a work horse and my daily driver. If you need the towing capacity go for it, you are the only one which can make that decision.
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10-27-2017, 10:09 PM
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Casey & Carolyn
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Las Vegas Nv
Posts: 171
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I'm not here to start a Dodge, Ford, Chevy debate. Only letting you know my experience with my Dodge 2500 which I recently traded for a 3500. It was a 2015 with a Cummins. Drove it daily in town stop and go. I do outside sales and do a lot of idling. On the phone on my laptop etc. according to my hour meter it was more than half idle time. Never had an issue with the DPF or DOC. The DEF system worked flawless also. Never had to take it on a road trip just to do a regen. Was concerned about all that prior to buying my first Diesel with all the emissions stuff on it. Not saying anyone else will have the same experience just letting you know mine. I had to buy my first Diesel because I over bought my boat. My Ram 1500 did not have what it took to move and stop it. Yes it had a Hemi.
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Las Vegas Nv
2017 Prime Time Crusader Lite 29 RS
2018 Ram 3500 4x4 CC Cummins Powered
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10-27-2017, 10:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 321
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What do you tow?
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10-27-2017, 10:45 PM
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Casey & Carolyn
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Las Vegas Nv
Posts: 171
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlsbad
What do you tow?
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Maxum SCR 2700 about 12,000 lbs lake ready
Prime Time 29RS Crusader Lite
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Las Vegas Nv
2017 Prime Time Crusader Lite 29 RS
2018 Ram 3500 4x4 CC Cummins Powered
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10-28-2017, 08:58 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Arden Hills Mn
Posts: 12
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This past summer towed a 2016 2811 rock wood ultra v with my 2016
Platinum ecotec great engine except we blew a turbo hose on the engine
In the Canadian Rockies and limped to Kalespell mt where the ford dealer
Attributed the problem to a loose hose clamp a rare Occurance
This fall traded the 2811 for a new 2018 Rockwood 3008w signature
Windjammer to take delivery this spring
The 2811 is 6900# dry absolutely no problem for the 3.5 The3008w is only
Slightly heavier at 7400# dry and with my 157" ecotec with all the options
Rated to pull 11200# wil test it again next spring with a return trip to
Banff National Park,Glacier National park,Yellowstone and Then home and
After that a trip to Door County Wi
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10-28-2017, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Central, Fl.
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Totally up to you ! What's best for you and the family is what's important. How many towing trips a year and distance ? All drivers good with taking into town and other tight areas ?
Good luck !
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2010 Flagstaff 26 RLSS (Sold 05/16)
2012 Ford F-150 Ecoboost, Screw, H/D, 3.73
1930 lbs CCC
2014 Jeep Rubicon JK
Going where the weather suits my clothes.
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10-28-2017, 09:36 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Arden Hills Mn
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Just myself and the war department(my wife of 47 Yrs) travel
Still working so I do about 3 trips totaling about 6K miles
Looking forward to more trips in 2019
I'm pretty well the sole driver
Don't boondock and patronize full hookup campgrounds
The nicest one we have ever visited is the
West Glacier National Park KOA check it out
We have reservations for a week this Coming July
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10-28-2017, 05:43 PM
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Ret E-9 Anchor-clanker
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Genoa, ILL
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Can't really speak about your Eco-Boot. I have read it is a great design. The F-150 is a pick-up and the F-350 is a truck. Ride is stiffer and the tries are not passenger tires like the F-150 are. The diesel will allow you to upgrade the RV (bigger) in the future, if wanting too. I traded my 08 Tundra SR5/TRD for a 15 F-250 6.7 and there was a big difference. Acceleration and braking, even under loaded conditions. The 6.7 has very good torque. Are you aware the specs difference's between the F-250 and the F-350SRW? The only difference I found (besides the cost) was the rear overload springs (leafs) on the F-350. They are unique in that they are over the top style, not engaging until loaded. This may add to the rear seat comfort ability. Cost was the determining factor for me. I found a one year old (dealer demo) F-250 6.7 below 40K. Had the extra leaf and Timbrens kit added ($750). Big difference in cargo handling now and she is perfectly level when connected to the 15k RV. The DW says the ride is a little stiffer in the back seat (unloaded), but as I don't drive from the rear seat I never seen it as an issue. The only issue I have with the regeneration cycle is it will perform it with a 2sec notification on the heads-up display. You never push a button to acknowledge it, and if your down the road 60mph you may not know it happened. At lower speeds your boost pressure and rpms are more noticeable. The manual will tell you to continue speeds at above 40-45mph for 20 min but I never have. Although were retired now we still travel extensively, and I have never had a regeneration issue with mine.
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2011 Flagstaff 8528 BHSS 2015 Ford 6.7 XLT
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10-28-2017, 06:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Maryland
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If you have an extra $4,000 I guess it makes sense. I hate trading vehicles as each trade supports a host of people with my money. Guess I am a little too frugal though.
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10-28-2017, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: London, Kentucky
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We towed a 32' Flagstaff, bumper pull, for 3 years and into about 38 states with a 2013 F-150 Supercab long wheelbase, 5.0 engine and a Hensley hitch. When we decided that 2016 was our year to go to Alaska we bought a 2001 F-350 crew cab dually 7.3 diesel. That bumper pull trailer served us well over those 17,300 miles also. I decided on that trip that you could not talk me away from a diesel truck in any manner, for any reason.
Now that we haul a 42' fiver weighing around 15,000 pounds I am certain that no gasser could make the experience similar. I can go on up any hill at my chosen speed and am very stable stopping or slowing the load.
If you drive it often, you can park it any where you like without worries. I did just that today, in the rain, near the door, at Costco and Krogers in Atlanta.
As with most choices in life, you ultimately make the decision that is right for you. Good luck with yours.
Travel safe
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10-28-2017, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey r
I'm not here to start a Dodge, Ford, Chevy debate. Only letting you know my experience with my Dodge 2500 which I recently traded for a 3500. It was a 2015 with a Cummins. Drove it daily in town stop and go. I do outside sales and do a lot of idling. On the phone on my laptop etc. according to my hour meter it was more than half idle time. Never had an issue with the DPF or DOC. The DEF system worked flawless also. Never had to take it on a road trip just to do a regen. Was concerned about all that prior to buying my first Diesel with all the emissions stuff on it. Not saying anyone else will have the same experience just letting you know mine. I had to buy my first Diesel because I over bought my boat. My Ram 1500 did not have what it took to move and stop it. Yes it had a Hemi.
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Does the Dodge truck have a screen that tells you what your DPF's soot load is? Does the vehicle display tell you when a regen is occuring?
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10-28-2017, 09:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey r
I'm not here to start a Dodge, Ford, Chevy debate. Only letting you know my experience with my Dodge 2500 which I recently traded for a 3500. It was a 2015 with a Cummins. Drove it daily in town stop and go. I do outside sales and do a lot of idling. On the phone on my laptop etc. according to my hour meter it was more than half idle time. Never had an issue with the DPF or DOC. The DEF system worked flawless also. Never had to take it on a road trip just to do a regen. Was concerned about all that prior to buying my first Diesel with all the emissions stuff on it. Not saying anyone else will have the same experience just letting you know mine. I had to buy my first Diesel because I over bought my boat. My Ram 1500 did not have what it took to move and stop it. Yes it had a Hemi.
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Does the Dodge truck have a screen that tells you what your DPF's soot load is? Does the vehicle display tell you when a regen is occuring? I only take mine on the road to do a full regen which doesn't occur in stop/go city driving. I prefer to get my DPF cleaned down to 10-15% from a highway drive then 50-60% if it occurs during city driving conditions.
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10-28-2017, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: SoCal
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Me myself, I won’t tow anything with less than a 2500 Diesel. There’s a reason they put 8 lugs on 3/4 ton trucks with bigger brakes. Put it this way, you can pretty much pull anything with almost any truck. But will you be able to stop it safely?? Furthermore in the future if you decided to buy anything bigger than what you have you’ll need a bigger truck. So why not buy once and call it done. Just my two cents.
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