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Old 02-27-2019, 09:22 PM   #21
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well here is my 3cents worth, being a ASE full certified auto technician and here i go
the op mentioned about E brake being a hat style or actuated manual caliper so with that said it depends on the manufacture design team and what parts are being installed, allot of cars have both and yes the newer cars do have a electric actuator so good luck servicing the rear brakes
the op mentioned brake cables frozen/rusted so with that said any car of age can have that problem, cables are made to be waterproof so if age or run over something now you have water intrusion and rust develops
moisture and cold weather it can happen and bind the shoe or the pad to lock the brakes but its rare
transmission damage is possible but use the e brake when in doubt, trans repairs are very expensive
x2 x2 for a few other posters, they have sense
I really dont care to continue this conversation, just use the E Brake when possible, if its broke get it fixed, it might save you or someone else
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:43 PM   #22
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And current F-150s like yours still use the drum brake shoes as well if they don't have an electric parking brake.

The electric versions don't use a cable at all.
Interesting. I didn't think my 13 was drum in hat but can't recall because I never replaced the rear rotors. My explorer isn't. I kind of like that set up from a redundancy standpoint.

I drove a stick so long I'll always use my e-brake. Too many failure points that could cause the car to roll and it puts abuse on the transmission to load it up like that especially when parked on a slope.
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Old 03-02-2019, 09:58 AM   #23
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A note of caution:
Failure to use the parking brake can and has resulted in injury and death. See Anton Yelchin cause of death...
Not only that, parking on a steep incline without using a parking brake will bind up the parking pawl in the trans making it extremely difficult to get it out of park.
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:33 AM   #24
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2017 Expedition Owners Manual Page 158.
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AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
WARNINGS
Always set the parking brake fully
and make sure you shift the gearshift
lever to park (P). Switch the ignition
off and remove the key whenever you leave
your vehicle.
I'm sure this is lawyer cover-your-bottom speak to limit Ford's liability. As in "we told you, ain't our fault." I doubt not 1 person in 1000 -- make that 10,000 -- does this. Especially since the parking brake is so hidden and inconvenient. I use it on inclined surfaces but not in flat parking lots, my garage, or driveway.

I'm betting the same guidance is buried is every owner's manual. If used for any long period, though, the brake pad will rust to the brake drums or discs.

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Old 03-02-2019, 10:50 AM   #25
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A note of caution:
Failure to use the parking brake can and has resulted in injury and death. See Anton Yelchin cause of death...
Los Angeles Police confirmed Yelchin’s death “was an accident,” and was caused by “blunt traumatic asphyxia.” The LAPD also said it appeared the actor had not properly put his car in park mode, but have so far not established any official connection between the e-shifter and the fatal accident.
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Old 03-02-2019, 11:35 AM   #26
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Los Angeles Police confirmed Yelchin’s death “was an accident,” and was caused by “blunt traumatic asphyxia.” The LAPD also said it appeared the actor had not properly put his car in park mode, but have so far not established any official connection between the e-shifter and the fatal accident.
Exactly. Wouldn't have happened if the parking brake was set.
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Old 03-02-2019, 02:15 PM   #27
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Use the break. Always.

Growing up we had a 79 econoline Ford that popped out of park all the time. One time it ran over my grandmother getting the mail she survived but caused a skull fracture and permanent neurological damage. The other 3 times we were lucky and never did any damage. I always set my parking break after that.

Then one day my brand new B3000 pickup I went out playing in the snow. That night it was very cold and my parking break froze. I had to put in 4 low and pop the clutch to free it. The next day I did not set it and just left it in gear. When I went to warm it up I forgot I had done so and started it without getting in. The truck drove through the closed garage door. At least no one was hurt. Important life lesson and my fault completely.

You can have issues either way but why not protect your vehicle and nearby people...

I set it still. Better a stuck parking break than an injured person. I am still trying to fix stupid sometimes.
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Old 03-02-2019, 08:29 PM   #28
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Parking BRAKE. Please.

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Give me a brake break....
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:44 PM   #30
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Give me a brake break....
Lol. When I dont use the brake things break...see still fixin stupid.
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Old 03-03-2019, 06:41 AM   #31
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As a teenager, I only used the parking/emergency brake for 180 degree turns with my 1975 Mustang II. Isn’t that what they are for?

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Old 03-03-2019, 01:27 PM   #32
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Parking BRAKE. Please.

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If it ain't broke why fix it?
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:11 AM   #33
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I am on the side of always using my parking brake prior to exiting my vehicles. I also place my vehicle in neutral when loading the bed of my truck or my dump trailer with any equipment that would apply a forward or reverse force to my vehicle. I do this because I don’t like relying on my drivetrain and transmission paw to hold the vehicle in place.
That said, I also use chock blocks on the front and rear of the rear tires while the vehicle is being loaded.
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Parking BRAKE. Please.



My English teacher is rolling over in her grave.


Ohhh give me a break...
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:32 PM   #35
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All manufacturers tell you to use the parking brake. It relieves stress on the mechanism in the tranny, which have been known to fail. As fa r as the guy that puts it in neutral when loading. ...I hope he is sitting in the driver's seat with his foot on the brake! .
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Put your truck in park and set the parking brake strong to help take stress off the tranny.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:18 PM   #37
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Always use the parking brake. Only a fool does not. And for what it’s worth, it is not an emergency brake, though you could use it as such.
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