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Old 11-30-2015, 02:56 PM   #41
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Well here to tell you that after someone put DEF in the fuel tank, it gets rather expensive - just over $10k. However, insurance paid for it and the person who did it was off the hook except now my insurance went up.

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And how did your insurance cover it?
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I owned a 2011 Silverado 2500 HD. Nice truck LTZ. But because of the location of the DEF fill and no DEF gauge I traded it in for a Ram 2500 with a DEF gauge and the fill is located next to the diesel fill. Now I always know how much DEF I have.
I know how much DEF I have in in my GMC 2500HD...when I'm filing it.... it runs over, then I know it's full...that's why I said earlier it has to be trickled in....and then most of the time it still runs over...I'm proud we have a GM engineer on here who thinks that little tube that Chevy /GMC uses is big enough....IMO, they should have taken another week studying the design....don't mind the location, just the size of the inlet and no indicator or gauge as to when it's getting full.
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OK, I'm a dumb ass, don't have a new diesel. What happens if DEF is put in fuel tank and why does it cause 10K damage????
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OK, I'm a dumb ass, don't have a new diesel. What happens if DEF is put in fuel tank and why does it cause 10K damage????

Very very bad things happen.
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OK, I'm a dumb ass, don't have a new diesel. What happens if DEF is put in fuel tank and why does it cause 10K damage????
I guess you could describe it as a water based acid.
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I know how much DEF I have in in my GMC 2500HD...when I'm filing it.... it runs over, then I know it's full...that's why I said earlier it has to be trickled in....and then most of the time it still runs over...I'm proud we have a GM engineer on here who thinks that little tube that Chevy /GMC uses is big enough....IMO, they should have taken another week studying the design....don't mind the location, just the size of the inlet and no indicator or gauge as to when it's getting full.
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The def will crystallize in the diesel (or almost anywhere other than in the tank). When it does, it travels downstream and clogs injectors, and makes it thru the entire fuel system which will make most fuel system components have to be replaced. This includes, fuel lines, filters, lines, injectors, modules, tank drained and flushed, and flushed again, possibly the high presdure fuel pump...im probably forgetting a couple things.

$10k actually is very cheap. Im guessing for that price the high pressure fuel pump (aka injector pump) did not need replaced. If those get trashed, then metal shrapnel travels the whole system as well.
Bad news, kinda like what gas will do but worse. You can run a little bit if gas (very little) with out trashing the injection pump. Def you shouldnt run engine at all.
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Wally carries Def for $12.00 for 2.5 gallons, if they do not have it Autozone and advanced auto has it for a couple bucks more. Top mine Chevy off about every 1k miles, bottle last between oil changes at 5k. Also carry def with me on long trips. Had an issue in mountains, convinced was issue with elevation, where add def light came on. Still have a good bit of miles to add def before the reduced speed kicks in. I agree, like where the filler is, lessens the chance of mixing fluids. Level dip stick would be nice, guess GM saves a few bucks per unit on builds.
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Considering when I worked as a medic we lost a truck every few months to gas in the diesel.. I am sure it can happen it would be pricey.

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It's worse around here...

All the busses (Ambulances) used to be diesel - last few they've bought have been gas... So it can change shift to shift, what type of fuel you need.

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In 6 pages this got way off the rails, which is fine.. I helped. I think I got one "works for me" on a Ford I think.

So my guess they are just short? Never really got the original question answered.. Unless I issued it! LOL
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It's worse around here...

All the busses (Ambulances) used to be diesel - last few they've bought have been gas... So it can change shift to shift, what type of fuel you need.

Nothing like setting yourself up for failure!
And I'll continue to be off the tracks..... Been out of the game for a while.. How to the fire trucks handle the def? We only ran 500 a year on the fire side. I can imagine the def would go bad?

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It's usually on a bottom shelf in the oil section. Sometimes the shelf is empty because they only have limited space for it.
Found it yesterday.. 7.88 for 2.5 Gallons.. Looked like a jug of engine oil. Thanks, prob been there all along!

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Sorry op....ill help on getting off track again.
Do you guys with newer trucks not have a screen on your gauge cluster that shows def level? Cause my interim '15 Gmc 3500 does, with 2500 miles on it, it still showes "level ok". Im gonna get a jug just in case though.
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Mine just says ok until it get to 25 to 30% give or take (seems about 1000miles til empty)

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Off subject a little bit, for you guys that pull a trailer, does your def consumption go up a lot? Someone told me it really drinks it pulling. Thanks in advance.
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It goes in at a set amount per part of diesel. I'm sure some will post the def to diesel ratio. So yes it does go "up" because my mpgs goes from 19 to 13 mpg. I would not say it drinks it.

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Thanks, taking a 2.5 jug of def fluid, truck has a 1000 miles on it. Have a 850 mile trip and don't want to trying find more of this stuff in a panic. Dealer topped off def tank when I picked it up. I watched, so, I guess it's all part of the learning curve.


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