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09-20-2021, 09:03 PM
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WDH & Sway bar combo
New to the forum truck & trailer,
My new F150 is a hybrid w/ max tow package and a 12700 max tow rating. The trailer is 26’ flagstaff has a GVW of 6,800lbs. I’m looking for suggestions on WDH and sway bar combo.
Thanks
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09-20-2021, 09:40 PM
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Equalizer 4pt fan over here. Pulling a 6500lb 28' trailer over 10,000 miles past 2 years no issues.
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2019 F150 4X4 7050 GVWR 1903 payload
2018 Avenger 21RBS 7700 GVWR
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09-20-2021, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
New to the forum truck & trailer,
My new F150 is a hybrid w/ max tow package and a 12700 max tow rating. The trailer is 26’ flagstaff has a GVW of 6,800lbs. I’m looking for suggestions on WDH and sway bar combo.
Thanks
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What trailer are you asking about and what is your truck's payload capacity?
This matters because you're focusing on the wrong thing, which can affect what WDH you choose.
With 1/2 tons, loaded tongue weight versus truck's payload capacity are more important than towing capacity. Nearly every 1/2 truck will run out of payload WAY before reaching the max towing capacity. Especially a hybrid due the heavy battery.
As far as a good WDH, get a modern tech WDH with integrated sway control.
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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09-21-2021, 06:11 AM
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The trailer is the Flagstaff 25FBLS and the truck payload is 2120.
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09-21-2021, 07:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
The trailer is the Flagstaff 25FBLS and the truck payload is 2120.
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Nice payload number. What's the gross weight rating on the '21s? My '19 had a 7050 rating.
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09-21-2021, 07:49 AM
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I use a ReCurve R3 with 1000 pound bars towing a 2205S Mini Lite with an F250 Super Duty
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09-21-2021, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
The trailer is the Flagstaff 25FBLS and the truck payload is 2120.
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Is that from the door sticker? It sounds way to high for actual payload
I like the Blue ox sway pro
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09-21-2021, 08:33 AM
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The new Hybrid has a GVWR of 7350lbs
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09-21-2021, 08:38 AM
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Unfortunately I don’t have the truck yet. 10/18 so they say. The numbers are from their website.
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09-21-2021, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
The new Hybrid has a GVWR of 7350lbs
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:two thumbs up:
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09-21-2021, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llr
Is that from the door sticker? It sounds way to high for actual payload
I like the Blue ox sway pro
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Sounds right based on my 150 Lariat, 1903 payload with 7050 GVWR, his 2120 payload with a 7350 gross
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09-21-2021, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
New to the forum truck & trailer,
My new F150 is a hybrid w/ max tow package and a 12700 max tow rating. The trailer is 26’ flagstaff has a GVW of 6,800lbs. I’m looking for suggestions on WDH and sway bar combo.
Thanks
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I use a Fastway e2, always been happy with it.
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09-21-2021, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wjrdmr
I use a Fastway e2, always been happy with it.
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X2, great WD Hitch. I don’t like and never have liked the chain type of WDH.. just think about it.. your TV and TT potentially can bounce/porpoise going down the road.. what does the chain do in that scenario? Only my opinion,,, I could fail in the bounce as it’s a chain.. it just seems sturdier in my eyes and more secure to use the equalizer type WDH’s… plus you don’t need extra crap for sway control, and can still back up with it all attached. Yes they cost more that the typical CHAIN TYPE, but you get what you pay for.
If I was to (again just my 2 cents) purchase and use a CHAIN TYPE WDH, it would be the Anderson Hitch, a totally different animal..
that’s all sorry for the rant, guess this has been eating me for a while and I hate seeing those cheap hitches going down the road but see them every day..
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09-21-2021, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UJAYY
Unfortunately I don’t have the truck yet. 10/18 so they say. The numbers are from their website.
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Those numbers aren't reliable. That 2120 number is probably a maximum number for a bare-bones model. Your real world number will most likely be much less.
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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09-21-2021, 02:07 PM
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No
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Originally Posted by Mike134
Sounds right based on my 150 Lariat, 1903 payload with 7050 GVWR, his 2120 payload with a 7350 gross
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No, Mike. His truck is a hybrid. Those batteries weigh at least a few hundred pounds, directly off payload.
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09-21-2021, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
No, Mike. His truck is a hybrid. Those batteries weigh at least a few hundred pounds, directly off payload.
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Payload rating takes into account batteries with a hybrid, full tank of gas. But I agree options like moon roofs, running boards, bed liners all decrease the payload rating.
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09-21-2021, 03:34 PM
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Apples to Oranges.
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Originally Posted by Mike134
Payload rating takes into account batteries with a hybrid, full tank of gas. But I agree options like moon roofs, running boards, bed liners all decrease the payload rating.
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In post #14 you compared the payload of your non-hybrid F-150 with the published, non-sticker, generic payload for the OP's F-150. That number (which you said "sounds right") was probably for a non-hybrid F-150, too. The sticker payload is likely much lower to account for the batteries.
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"Always bypass the water heater before opening the low-point drains."
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09-21-2021, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
In post #14 you compared the payload of your non-hybrid F-150 with the published, non-sticker, generic payload for the OP's F-150. That number (which you said "sounds right") was probably for a non-hybrid F-150, too. The sticker payload is likely much lower to account for the batteries.
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Ford lists a payload number for each type of engine/body style. Goes up for smaller motors down for bigger motors. Has a separate line for the hybrid. I would think they factor in the battery weight for the hybrid base number like they do for pure gas motors. see page 6 of the attached
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09-21-2021, 03:58 PM
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If I read that correctly the 2120 is a possibility, but just in a 2 wheel drive crew cab long bed. I don't believe the OP gave the details but a 2WD seems rare these days, the 4WD is just over 1800lbs before options, not terrible but not great either as most people don't want work trucks
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09-21-2021, 04:27 PM
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A lot of great input. Thanks. I didn’t realize how much info goes into to choosing the right WDH. So, it is the 4x4 crew cab. Is there a right WDH for this set up or is it really personal preference?
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