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11-26-2021, 05:02 PM
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WDH on Wolf Pup 14CC
Anyone has a Wolf Pup 14CC, that can enlighten me if I need to have a WDH. And which type of WDH is a good one for such a small TT.
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11-26-2021, 05:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
Anyone has a Wolf Pup 14CC, that can enlighten me if I need to have a WDH. And which type of WDH is a good one for such a small TT.
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It would help if you posted what you're towing it with. A 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck wouldn't need a WDH, for example.
Figure a loaded tongue weight of around 500lbs.
https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/trave...-pup/14CC/5019
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4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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11-26-2021, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bikendan
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I hope I’m replying to this correctly. I’m a newbie in the forum and first time TT owner, so pardon the ignorance on terminologies.
So my TV is a 2017 Toyota Tacoma Off-Road with the Tow Package.
This might be the right specs of my TV
Tacoma Spec
Vehicle weight - 4,480
Tow capacity - 6,400 lbs
Max Tongue weight - 640 lbs
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11-26-2021, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
I hope I’m replying to this correctly. I’m a newbie in the forum and first time TT owner, so pardon the ignorance on terminologies.
So my TV is a 2017 Toyota Tacoma Off-Road with the Tow Package.
This might be the right specs of my TV
Tacoma Spec
Vehicle weight - 4,480
Tow capacity - 6,400 lbs
Max Tongue weight - 640 lbs
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Yep, you'll need a WDH.
Your Taco should be able to handle that TT fine with a WDH with integrated sway control.
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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11-26-2021, 10:06 PM
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WDH recommendation
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
Anyone has a Wolf Pup 14CC, that can enlighten me if I need to have a WDH. And which type of WDH is a good one for such a small TT.
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I've been very pleased with an Andersen WDH, towing a Wolf Pup 16FQ.
It's very lightweight and easy to handle, built in sway control. I've towed over 10,000 miles with it without issue.
I've never used any other WDH, so have nothing to compare to, but this one has been excellent.
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11-26-2021, 10:22 PM
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WDH on Wolf Pup
I have towed a 2015 Wolf Pup 16fq with a Tacoma 4.0L V-6 for six years. I feel a weight distributing hitch is essential. Keep in mind weight on the hitch will increase as you load your trailer with "stuff". Also, stuff you carry in the truck bed adds weight on the rear springs, along with whatever weight is in the cab. The "spec weight" is just a starting point. In addition to the Curt WD hitch installed and set up by the dealer, I added a set of Sumo Springs (dense foam) on the rear axle. I thought the rear end was still a little saggy when loaded.
The Tacoma has been a reliable workhorse as we towed several thousand miles a year. I still run it over the Cat Scales once a year to keep tabs on weights. It is very tempting to add a few more items, then a few more, etc.
PS. I don't have any sway control added to the hitch assembly. I have never had the slightest hint of sway with this combo.
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11-26-2021, 10:51 PM
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I used a WDH on my pop-up and now 10yrs later I'm using one on my 36' bumper pull TT being towed by my 1-ton Dually.
As far as I'm concerned, they are essential.
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11-27-2021, 12:37 AM
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Thank you all you inputs, will be shopping for WDH soon and any recommendation on types and brands would be great.
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11-27-2021, 12:46 AM
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Forgot to ask recommendations or opinions on either WDH with the chain and no chain, whatever that thing is called. Thanks again.
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11-27-2021, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
Forgot to ask recommendations or opinions on either WDH with the chain and no chain, whatever that thing is called. Thanks again.
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The key to an effective WDH is a correct "set-up". With this in mind, you needn't spend a whole lot of benjamins. For over 35 years I have used chained torsion bars and they've worked great for me. The couple of sets I've gone through have all come with "sway control", but I've never needed that device. The sway control parts wind up in the scrap metal bin. Pay attention to your weights and balances and you won't have sway.
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11-27-2021, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D W
The key to an effective WDH is a correct "set-up". With this in mind, you needn't spend a whole lot of benjamins. For over 35 years I have used chained torsion bars and they've worked great for me. The couple of sets I've gone through have all come with "sway control", but I've never needed that device. The sway control parts wind up in the scrap metal bin. Pay attention to your weights and balances and you won't have sway.
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When you say weight and balances, meaning wether to put them in the front of the trailer or back?
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11-27-2021, 06:07 PM
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At roughly 4000 lbs, yeah you want a WDH. I ran Equal-I-zer brand on both our TT's and was NOT disappointed at all. One TT was 6800 loaded and towed with a Chevy 1500 and the last one was 11,400 loaded and towed with 3/4 GMC Diesel. Spent 600 to 800 for each one.
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11-27-2021, 06:47 PM
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I'm a big fan of newer tech WDHs with integrated sway control, instead of old tech chain WDHs with separate friction sway bars.
I love my 4pt Equal-i-zer.
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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11-27-2021, 08:59 PM
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Ok so from what I understand WDH is a must and Sway control is optional-ish. So i made the jump to get this (Husky 32215 Center Line TS with Spring Bars - 400 lb. to 600 lb. Tongue Weight Capacity (2" Ball))
Reason for this is that is a WDH which come with built in sway control and the price is around $340 which seemed rational.
I hope this works well and if anything on the sway control, need it or not, at least I will have a bit of peace of mind.
Once again, thank you all for your inputs, you may have just prevented disaster, we may never know.
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11-28-2021, 11:45 AM
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Hah! I strongly disagree that you NEED a WDH.
But, you will likely have a better towing experience with a WDH and especially the one you mentioned. They work great and I have the same one for my Wolf Pup 16BHS. It’s a bit heavier empty (dry weight) but has a similar GVWR.
The WDH will make both truck & trailer act more like one unit, preventing porpoising and sway. The WDH has designed in sway control, not needing extra parts. You do not have to disconnect anything while backing. This series WDH can make some terrible sounds on tight turns, like metal breaking. It’s just the metal parts friction noise while controlling the trailer.
I first used mine with a 2008 Explorer. HUGE IMPROVEMENT! Now with the F150, the WDH isn’t needed but locks in the trailer while towing.
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11-28-2021, 12:57 PM
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Blue ox is the one I'm using. I can't compare it to anything but it works. I can back up with it also.
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11-28-2021, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
When you say weight and balances, meaning wether to put them in the front of the trailer or back?
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Yes, how you load your rig for travel. Front vs. Rear, Side vs. Side.
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11-28-2021, 01:54 PM
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less than $300 and works great for my Nissan Frontier Pro 4, 2021 model and a Wildwood Platinum 167 fsx rbk
https://www.harborfreight.com/10000-...tem-67649.html
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11-28-2021, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D W
Yes, how you load your rig for travel. Front vs. Rear, Side vs. Side.
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Got it. I was actually contemplating in putting all my stuff in my truck as it has a camper shell, just to lighten up the trailer. Not sure if that is a good idea. Thoughts?
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11-28-2021, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtc900502
Got it. I was actually contemplating in putting all my stuff in my truck as it has a camper shell, just to lighten up the trailer. Not sure if that is a good idea. Thoughts?
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Not a good idea. You'll reduce your truck's payload capacity by doing that. Better to keep the weight in the trailer. You might need to remove the camper shell too. What does the driver's door payload sticker say is the payload capacity?
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2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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