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04-13-2018, 06:27 PM
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Location: Cedar Creek Lake, TX
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Only adjust the L brackets to make the weight bars pararell to the trailer frame. Add or remove washers to adjust the weight transfer. If the bars are not pararell you will have horrendous noise.
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2019 Keystone Loredo 290SRL
2019 Ram 2500 4x4 Cummins crew cab
Andersen hitch
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04-14-2018, 09:05 PM
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Location: Canton, Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
Don't forget to add the 75-100 lbs for the WDH to the tongue weight. (Unless that's what you meant by adding the 100 lbs to the 625 lbs. But you didn't really say "it's the WDH weight I'm adding," you just said you add it "when specing a WDH.")
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Actually, I didn't forget. I consider the WDH kit payload, not TW. TW is a parameter of the trailer while sitting by itself, which does not include the WDH kit. I understand where you are coming from, but no WDH maker has you add the weight of their WDH to your trailer's TW, in order to determine the size kit they recommend to you. You simply use the TW of your trailer.
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2004 Surveyor SV261T (UltraLite Bunkhouse Hybrid)
2006 Mercury Mountaineer V8 AWD Premier
Equal-i-zer WDH (10k), Prodigy Brake Controller
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04-14-2018, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebrakeman
Actually, I didn't forget. I consider the WDH kit payload, not TW. TW is a parameter of the trailer while sitting by itself, which does not include the WDH kit. I understand where you are coming from, but no WDH maker has you add the weight of their WDH to your trailer's TW, in order to determine the size kit they recommend to you. You simply use the TW of your trailer.
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You may be right, but you may be wrong. Why would they tell me to include the weight of the hitch when choosing a size when they already know it? They already know what it is and have most likely already included it in their spring bar sizing calculations.
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2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)
2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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04-15-2018, 07:36 AM
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Based on SAE ratings the only place you will see the weight of the WDH added is to the payload (GVW) of the vehicle. Some hitch manufactures like to include all the weight added behind the rear axle, since the hitch will essentially have to act on that weight as well. If that’s the case the spare tire on most trucks would have to be considered which is kinda nonsense.
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04-16-2018, 04:12 PM
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Rockford,
My main point was not to debate the issue that you brought up (where to include weight of WDH). I was mainly stating that I didn't "forget" anything. I stated exactly what I meant. If Dusty is correct about the SAE specs, that seems to support my line of thinking.
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2004 Surveyor SV261T (UltraLite Bunkhouse Hybrid)
2006 Mercury Mountaineer V8 AWD Premier
Equal-i-zer WDH (10k), Prodigy Brake Controller
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04-16-2018, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
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Those that add lots of weight behind the rear axle of the vehicle, add hitch weight and try to return the front to its original height are doing it wrong. One should only use the WDH to compensate for the effects of hitch load not in addition to cargo in the bed.
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04-16-2018, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebrakeman
Rockford,
My main point was not to debate the issue that you brought up (where to include weight of WDH). I was mainly stating that I didn't "forget" anything. I stated exactly what I meant. If Dusty is correct about the SAE specs, that seems to support my line of thinking.
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I don't believe you understood MY point, but that's fine. Not worth debating.
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1988 Coleman Sequoia - popup (1987-2009) - outlasted 3 Dodge Grand Caravans!
2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)
2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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