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Old 04-02-2016, 06:11 PM   #1
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Weight check

We have a 2016 f150 and these are our numbers pictures below. We are trying to figure out what we need to adjust. We have an equalizer wdh 1200, e rated tires, f150 3.5 v6 with 3.55 axel ratio. Our trailer is a 35ft (we know it's large) cherokee. We have some jerking going on, and a very small amount of sway, but there is also very strong winds in augusta today.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:47 PM   #2
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We need one more photo - the yellow decal in on the driver door jamb. The decal has the trucks payload limit.
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:58 PM   #3
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This is the other sticker, but we changed out the tires to e rated tires, same size.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:18 PM   #4
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Weight check

In my opinion you could do two things: 1) move weight in the trailer forward to add about 100 lbs of tongue weight, and 2) adjust the hitch to transfer another 200 lbs to the front axle on the TV.

It looks like you have about 700 lbs tongue weight and it should be about 810 lbs for a 12.5% share of the trailer weight. Those 1200 lb bars may be too stiff to properly move weight to the front axle.

Finally, you're getting close to the payload limit of the truck but should be ok.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:35 PM   #5
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By close to payload, do yiu mean because it is only 450 under? The payload is not going to change. That was the whole family with a full tank and our kids are shrimps so they are not getting any bigger very fast... our trailer weight will c hang because we were not fully loaded, really just some misc items and bed linens and blankets. When we load, should we add most heavy items to the front? Ladder, pop up and general camping gear? Also, we were at 2/3 water and will dump that and travel empty, so that should balance out the weight of food and clothing. Thanks for help! The wind had died down some on the way back home and my husband said it felt a lot better.
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By close to payload, do yiu mean because it is only 450 under? The payload is not going to change.
Yep you should be good on payload if you had everything loaded up. If you decide to move some more weight to the tongue, then that weight will come off the payload. Depending on where the fresh water tank is, towing with it empty may move some weight forward if the tank is behind the trailer axle.

I think the weights look fine overall, just need some fine tuning. I towed the TT in my signature with a 2011 F150 EB and it performed great.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:44 PM   #7
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I have a similar setup. A little more payload and a shorter trailer. I just purchased E rated tire myself. You didn't say, but sounded like you implying that the tires changed the ratings. They don't. I haven't towed with mine yet, but I expect a more stable ride, and that's all.

I've been experimenting just about every trip with our WDH. Moving it higher or lower and adjusting the tilt of the ball all make noticeable changes in how the truck and trailer handle. I suggest you experiment.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:24 PM   #8
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We read that the tires make for a better, more stable ride which is why we upgraded. We also have bought new brakes to upgrade those as well, but that will not have time to take place until after our first trip.
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Old 04-03-2016, 08:12 AM   #9
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I've crossed a few 10k foot passes with my combination. By far, the weak point of the experience was the braking. The transmission offers very little braking. The only way I felt safe was to keep the speed way down...as in 1st or 2nd gear. That said, I never did smell my brakes or have any fade. Maybe I could have trusted them more.

I'm excited about the differences with an "E" rated tire. I hope I feel it as much as folks on the internet say.
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What PSI in the truck tires? I needed to run 60 psi on my e rated on the F 150 to tighten up the sway.

I towed a similar TT with F 150 with 5.4 then Ecoboost 3.5 and had similar issues until I added more air. The water tank being empty will give you your payload you need
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Hoping the Original Poster doesn't mind. Same truck and thought it was relevant. Wondering if those interested would look at mine as well. Trying to get it set up better this year (last year in this truck most likely). I can see rear axle is an issue. I also have been questioning the WDH they set me up with. I think it should have been a 12K minimum and they went 10K. I wonder if I have any recourse with the dealer, almost a year later.

Pics in order: Truck Payload; Truck Axles; Truck Only; Trailer with OUT WDH; Trailer WITH WDH

And I also provided a link to the calculator for tongue weight as well.
Actual Weights - Travel Trailer/Bumper Pull Weights from CAT Scales - Towing Planner








Thanks for taking a look.
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Old 04-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #12
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3 washers

also noticed that the dealer only installed three washers. This could DEF. be causing the issues of tongue weight and rear axle issues. I may have to redo the entire hitch again to get it right. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:14 AM   #13
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Weight check

Hazmat you are 280 lbs over your rear gawr spec 3800 lbs vs measured in last pick 4080lbs. And you are 80lbs over your gvwr.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:34 AM   #14
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After looking at the number and being pretty upset I looked at the hitch setup and I believe it is all wrong. Practically, if I can get more weight back on that trailer the margins aren't too far off where it would be an issue right?
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:20 PM   #15
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ElizabethN (OP), your TT is about the same weight as ours (6,500 empty / 640 empty tongue) & we also have the EQ4 1200. The dealer setup the WDH for what he expected our tongue weight would be when loaded. Therefore on the way home from the dealership it felt bouncy - like it was porpoising up & down too much for my liking - and this was behind our Ram 2500 CC w/stiff rear springs that can handle a payload capacity of 3,000 vs. your Ecoboost's 1,760...

However, once we loaded our gear we're at 8,000+ w/loaded tongue of 1,200 and the ride feels totally stable now. (Tongue weight increased by 50%; now 15% of our TT weight...) Once we had some pretty high winds so I added about 300 lbs. of water to our FW tank (up front) making our tongue weight closer to 17% and stabilizing our setup even further by lowering the TT's center-of-gravity. However, I do not recommend towing with a full FW tank on a regular basis...

The problem with the F150 EB is the softer rear-end / payload limitation of 1,760 means you have to dial-in the WDH just right to keep 15% on the tongue & not go over on your rear axle rating. Therefore a lot of F150 EB folks tend to add airbags to stiffen the rear axle. Since you have already upgraded to E tires, your next step is to adjust the EQ4 WDH by following the manual/YouTube videos step-by-step. If that does not work, your last option is to add some affordable air bags. It seems most folks are happy with the results.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:22 PM   #16
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Weight check

You should try to get 300 lbs back to the front axle this my get you under on your rear gawr. You then need to look at you tongue weight and see if you can get under you gvwr by reducing it. Just try to stay around 12%. No matter what you do you will be right at the maximums for your TV. So you need to take this into account for how you drive and doing the maintenance on the TV. You will get people on here that will say you are over weight because you don't have any margin but it depends how comfortable you are running right at your maximum weight.
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You should try to get 300 lbs back to the front axle this my get you under on your rear gawr. You then need to look at you tongue weight and see if you can get under you gvwr by reducing it. Just try to stay around 12%. No matter what you do you will be right at the maximums for your TV. So you need to take this into account for how you drive and doing the maintenance on the TV. You wail get people on here that will say you are over weight because you don't have any margin but it depends how comfortable you are running right at your maximum weight.


No doubt; when the lease is over I'm going 3/4 a 1 ton (which will inevitably lead to a 5th wheel ) but, for the next 1.5 years I'd like to bring the weights in line and be safe.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:07 PM   #18
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You need 2 or 3 more washers. You will see a bit more weight transferred back to the trailer axles as well moving more weight to the front axle.


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