Weight Ratings and Such - Page 3

D. J. Schuler · 03-09-2017, 08:09 PM

I planned a little bit ahead in 2011. Got the F150 XLT 4X4 LB wit EB. Got the #8200 package - HT 11,200, HP2,393 and 3.73 rear. Scale with me 5r hitch 170 and some tools - 1,940. The 5r pin is around 1,660, still have room for my wife. The EB pulls the 9,500 very well in rolling hills.

Zak1 · 03-09-2017, 08:41 PM

I just installed my new Propride 3P 1400 hitch to my 2016 F150 (2.7 Ecoboost) 4X4 Supercrew pulling a Vlite 30WIKSS (7700 lbs dry). Went from and Equalizer WDH. OMG! Completely changes the towing experience of this light truck pulling a heavy TT....

My advise would be to get whatever truck you want with the power and breaking you need but please consider the investment of the phenomenal hitch like the Propride 3P 1400....

CaptnJohn · 03-09-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zak1

I just installed my new Propride 3P 1400 hitch to my 2016 F150 (2.7 Ecoboost) 4X4 Supercrew pulling a Vlite 30WIKSS (7700 lbs dry). Went from and Equalizer WDH. OMG! Completely changes the towing experience of this light truck pulling a heavy TT....

My advise would be to get whatever truck you want with the power and breaking you need but please consider the investment of the phenomenal hitch like the Propride 3P 1400....

We almost agree.

Get the truck you need then the hitch.

TandSH · 03-21-2017, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman_stx

Just remember that the only difference between your truck and the F350 SRW version is the badge on the side, the sticker on the door and the overload spring. Add air bags or a helper spring and you are 100% just as capable and safe as the SRW 350, which has an additional, say, 1400 lbs of payload, give or take. Sticker won't change, though.

I keep reading this on forums here but that is NOT what I have found in specs from Ford. The rear axles of SRW F-250 and F-350 have significantly different weight ratings because the axles proper (not the housings) are different diameters. Also, contrary to internet lore they do NOT have the same part number. But, that's just Ford's take.

I don't have a reference handy and am not motivated to find the data again right now so suggest everyone do their own research.

Edit - OK, I couldn't settle on my last statement so I got off my duff and found the data. Here is the link, look at page 52 for rear axle specs:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ps_-_Specs.pdf

Note - I researched this last year for the 2016 Super Dutys as that is what I own and don't think there has been any changes from 2016 to 2017 rear axle applications.

Once again, F-250 vs F-350 SRW rear axles have different manufactures, different part numbers, different dimensions, and different weight ratings.

dustman_stx · 03-21-2017, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TandSH

I keep reading this on forums here but that is NOT what I have found in specs from Ford. The rear axles of SRW F-250 and F-350 have significantly different weight ratings because the axles proper (not the housings) are different diameters. Also, contrary to internet lore they do NOT have the same part number. But, that's just Ford's take.

I don't have a reference handy and am not motivated to find the data again right now so suggest everyone do their own research.

Edit - OK, I couldn't settle on my last statement so I got off my duff and found the data. Here is the link, look at page 52 for rear axle specs:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ps_-_Specs.pdf

Note - I researched this last year for the 2016 Super Dutys as that is what I own and don't think there has been any changes from 2016 to 2017 rear axle applications.

Once again, F-250 vs F-350 SRW rear axles have different manufactures, different part numbers, different dimensions, and different weight ratings.

Your doc is for the 2017 model year. I have posted doc proving I am correct for the generation that included my 2015. I don't have the time to go dig around and find it again at the moment. Appears as though Ford is now using different axles for the 250 and 350.

TandSH · 03-21-2017, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman_stx

Your doc is for the 2017 model year. I have posted doc proving I am correct for the generation that included my 2015. I don't have the time to go dig around and find it again at the moment. Appears as though Ford is now using different axles for the 250 and 350.

Just to restate what I posted, Ford used different axles for the 2016 model year as well. So, 2016/2017 are alike. Can't speak to earlier model years but reference or posted data would help clear the urban legend issues.

dustman_stx · 03-21-2017, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TandSH

Just to restate what I posted, Ford used different axles for the 2016 model year as well. So, 2016/2017 are alike. Can't speak to earlier model years but reference or posted data would help clear the urban legend issues.

I've personally posted it- so there is no "urban legend". Unfortunately I don't have time to find it and repost it every time someone poses one of these questions. Feel free to do the research and enlighten yourself if you choose to do so. You can take the 2 minutes and go to fordparts.com and search for axle shafts for a 2015 F250 and F350. You'll clearly see that for the 4x4 model they are both 3219 and 3220 part numbers. Therefore, it is obvious that there are NOT different axles for the 2016 like there are for the 16 and 17 models.

325BH · 03-21-2017, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TandSH

I keep reading this on forums here but that is NOT what I have found in specs from Ford. The rear axles of SRW F-250 and F-350 have significantly different weight ratings because the axles proper (not the housings) are different diameters. Also, contrary to internet lore they do NOT have the same part number. But, that's just Ford's take.

I don't have a reference handy and am not motivated to find the data again right now so suggest everyone do their own research.

Edit - OK, I couldn't settle on my last statement so I got off my duff and found the data. Here is the link, look at page 52 for rear axle specs:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ps_-_Specs.pdf

Note - I researched this last year for the 2016 Super Dutys as that is what I own and don't think there has been any changes from 2016 to 2017 rear axle applications.

Once again, F-250 vs F-350 SRW rear axles have different manufactures, different part numbers, different dimensions, and different weight ratings.

Depends on the years. My generation of Super Duty (2016), the F250 and F350 SRW are IDENTICAL, including axles and everything else. You have to get the "camper package" in the F250 to get the rear overload spring though.

There have been various mis-prints regarding axle diameters and numbers of splines. If you go to the Ford parts desk and investigate, you will find they are the same. (Even if they were different, which they aren't, it wouldn't matter for payload as the axles in a full-floater don't carry the load... only the housing does.)

Rear axle is same manufacturer, same part numbers, same unit.

doc73 · 03-21-2017, 09:01 AM

325BH · 03-21-2017, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by doc73

Yup! [emoji846]

doc73 · 03-21-2017, 09:08 AM

Not trying to be a butt head... But this comes up every other week.. It is amusing but at some point gets old. But I guess for Ford I cannot just add airbags to my 250 and make it a 350 after 2017... Guess I am glad I do not own a Ford! LOL

So, I wonder??? If I put airbags on a 350 does that make it a 450?

dustman_stx · 03-21-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by doc73

Considering the level of misinformation still being presented, I'd say this horse is VERY alive and well!!!!!!

dustman_stx · 03-21-2017, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by doc73

Not trying to be a butt head... But this comes up every other week.. It is amusing but at some point gets old. But I guess for Ford I cannot just add airbags to my 250 and make it a 350 after 2017... Guess I am glad I do not own a Ford! LOL

So, I wonder??? If I put airbags on a 350 does that make it a 450?

I believe there are structural differences between 350 and 450, but haven't researched that. If everything about them is identical except for the springs, then the logical answer is yes.

doc73 · 03-21-2017, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman_stx

I believe there are structural differences between 350 and 450, but haven't researched that. If everything about them is identical except for the springs, then the logical answer is yes.

Well I know the next thread I will start to continue this fued... I have no idea but can a 450 even be a srw? anyways...

dustman_stx · 03-21-2017, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by doc73

Well I know the next thread I will start to continue this fued... I have no idea but can a 450 even be a srw? anyways...

You didn't say SRW, so the logical assumption would be that you were referring to the DRW version if comparing 350 to 450, which is DRW only. I keep forgetting that I can't assume logic is being used.

doc73 · 03-21-2017, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman_stx

You didn't say SRW, so the logical assumption would be that you were referring to the DRW version if comparing 350 to 450, which is DRW only. I keep forgetting that I can't assume logic is being used.

Oh no.. No logic in my post... Just more misdirection and false truths. Remember 9 out of 10 statistics on the internet are made up.

CaptnJohn · 03-21-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 325BH

Yup! [emoji846]

At this point I think I am at X 3718. X 2 was looooong ago.

CaptnJohn · 03-21-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doc73

Not trying to be a butt head... But this comes up every other week.. It is amusing but at some point gets old. But I guess for Ford I cannot just add airbags to my 250 and make it a 350 after 2017... Guess I am glad I do not own a Ford! LOL

So, I wonder??? If I put airbags on a 350 does that make it a 450?

No, but if you add them to a Chevy 2500 it actually becomes a 1550...

325BH · 03-21-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doc73

So, I wonder??? If I put airbags on a 350 does that make it a 450?

No, because there are differences between a 350 and a 450.

That is the whole point of the 250 vs 350 SRW discussions. For some years, there is no difference... except for the sticker. Some guys don't want to accept that. It isn't some mythical thing, there really is no difference... which is why some of us ignore the sticker. It is up to you, we aren't forcing anyone to do anything.

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