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Old 01-23-2019, 11:52 AM   #1
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Which tow bar do you like and why?

I'm looking at a 2006 Jeep liberty this evening for use as a toad behind a 2018 Forester 3011. Liberty weighs in at just above 4000#.
As I'm researching tow bar and braking systems, I see there are quite a few options. One bar I saw has surge brakes built on. Not sure how that works but I like the idea of not having the big brake box inside the vehicle.
Any advice and/or insights will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:59 AM   #2
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Kenny Kustom uses the Nighthawk by Roadmaster and wrote a review on my site:
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:40 PM   #3
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Kenny Kustom uses the Nighthawk by Roadmaster and wrote a review on my site:
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Thanks. I'll read it.
Update. Excellent review. Brief and to the point. Video was what I needed to see. Thanks again.
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:27 PM   #4
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I have an '06 Liberty that I tow with my Sunseeker 3010. I use the Ready Brake and Blue Ox Alpha tow bar. I wish I would have done a little more research and purchased the Ready Brute, which combines surge and tow bar. Been using my setup for a couple of years now. Has served me well - plus I have a unique setup for the brake cable. Might be able to find some pictures somewhere.
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:38 PM   #5
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We use the NSA Ready Brute Elite towbar. This works using a surge brake that really does the job. We tow a 2008 Jeep JK Sahara 2 door using the ready brute and have about 10K miles using it. Simple unit, can do installation of hardware yourself, if so inclined. We also use the NSA safety breakaway that you should also consider and another easy install. You can get these off of Amazon for around $1100. Link: https://www.amazon.com/NSA-RV-Produc...sa+ready+brake
You will also need a baseplate, pins to connect baseplate to towbar and clevises to connect to pins and towbar. Additionally, there is the electrical 7 pin harness from the RV to the Jeep and (probably) need a wiring harness for the lights on the Jeep to work when connected to the RV.
We are very happy with our setup and highly recommend the unit. It also has a lifetime warranty.
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We use the NSA Ready Brute Elite towbar. This works using a surge brake that really does the job. We tow a 2008 Jeep JK Sahara 2 door using the ready brute and have about 10K miles using it. Simple unit, can do installation of hardware yourself, if so inclined. We also use the NSA safety breakaway that you should also consider and another easy install. You can get these off of Amazon for around $1100. Link: https://www.amazon.com/NSA-RV-Produc...sa+ready+brake
You will also need a baseplate, pins to connect baseplate to towbar and clevises to connect to pins and towbar. Additionally, there is the electrical 7 pin harness from the RV to the Jeep and (probably) need a wiring harness for the lights on the Jeep to work when connected to the RV.
We are very happy with our setup and highly recommend the unit. It also has a lifetime warranty.
Yep, Baseplate and lighting is a must and should also be considered as well as the breakaway. Since I have a Blue Ox tow bar, I use the Blue Ox baseplate. Can't remember where I got my wiring for the taillights, but I only use a 4-pin setup instead of a 6 or 7. We (my son and I) did the whole install ourselves, so we had no labor costs.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:09 AM   #7
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Yep, Baseplate and lighting is a must and should also be considered as well as the breakaway. Since I have a Blue Ox tow bar, I use the Blue Ox baseplate. Can't remember where I got my wiring for the taillights, but I only use a 4-pin setup instead of a 6 or 7. We (my son and I) did the whole install ourselves, so we had no labor costs.
Thanks for the report. I did get the liberty but turns out, it's a 2006, so even better. Really clean.
The search for bar and other parts needed to tow it starts tomorrow.
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Lots of choices as to equipment and of course everybody is going to tell you theirs is the best On a tow bar I suggest you get one that is all terrain so it can be disconnected quickly should the need arise. Otherwise you need to be fairly level to disconnect easily.

I have heard the SMI stay and play is very good for a braking system. You may want to look into that. It's a bit pricey to have it installed but there is nothing in the way and all you do is flip a switch.

That being said, I bought the tow bar and brake system used (read cheap). I have a 12 year old Roadmaster Falcon 2 that serves the purpose but wish it was all terrain. For braking I have an old Hopkins Brake Buddy. I bought the red case Vantage for about $300 but it had some issues. Hopkins totally rebuilt it and upgraded it to the Vantage Select, new compressor and seals, new updated remote and a new power cord. Max is $399 to rebuild and they give you a 3 year warranty. Saved about $500 by not buying a new one.
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I agree with GL1800Rider completely.... we're all going to say ours is best. One thing I didn't want to do is have a box to take in and out of the driver's compartment. The SMI Stay and Play was a little pricey for me. The Ready Brake seemed like a good compromise.
If I can help with routing anything on the 06 Liberty, drop me a pm.
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I agree with GL1800Rider completely.... we're all going to say ours is best. One thing I didn't want to do is have a box to take in and out of the driver's compartment. The SMI Stay and Play was a little pricey for me. The Ready Brake seemed like a good compromise.
If I can help with routing anything on the 06 Liberty, drop me a pm.
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Thank you Larry. I'll be looking for for that help soon I'm sure.
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Roadmaster tow bar geometry is good

I've got the Roadmaster All-Terrain, and I must say that I'm a big fan of the geometry of their tow system, because it gives added strength when you are turning.

The Roadmaster system has a lateral bar that connects the left and right car attachment points, and it is in front of the car. Thus, when you hook it up, you have a solid triangle coming back from the motorhome hitch. When you turn the motorhome, it pulls the front of the car in the same direction. By having the triangle, this lateral force gets distributed to both of the attachment points at the front of the car. Other systems don't have this cross bar, so the lateral force is distributed to one attachment point only. For example, if you are turning to the right, the pulling force is on the left attachment point only, and the right attachment just gets a pushing force that doesn't help to turn the car at all. The lateral bar transmits some of the lateral pull on the left attachment to the right attachment, so they both work together.

Now, I acknowledge that other hitch systems have a lateral bar behind the car grille that performs some of this task. But, they are almost one foot behind the attachment point to the tow bar, and there is a lot of adverse leverage on the arms that come out of the car before they can distribute the lateral force. They have to be really beefy to get the same strength as the Roadmaster, which is already very beefy.

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Which tow bar do you like and why?

My 2016 Forester 2401W is pulling a 2006 Jeep Wrangler which weighs in at about 3,800 lbs when I last checked. My towbar is a Roadmaster Falcon All-Terrain Motorhome-mounted tow bar with a 6,000-lb. weight capacity. My brake system is InvisiBrake. I love my setup and is easily hitched or unhitched. You can learn more at the Roadmaster web site. Here's a link: Roadmaster Inc. - Tow Bars, Braking Systems & RV Accessories
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I've got the Roadmaster All-Terrain, and I must say that I'm a big fan of the geometry of their tow system, because it gives added strength when you are turning.

The Roadmaster system has a lateral bar that connects the left and right car attachment points, and it is in front of the car. Thus, when you hook it up, you have a solid triangle coming back from the motorhome hitch. When you turn the motorhome, it pulls the front of the car in the same direction. By having the triangle, this lateral force gets distributed to both of the attachment points at the front of the car. Other systems don't have this cross bar, so the lateral force is distributed to one attachment point only. For example, if you are turning to the right, the pulling force is on the left attachment point only, and the right attachment just gets a pushing force that doesn't help to turn the car at all. The lateral bar transmits some of the lateral pull on the left attachment to the right attachment, so they both work together.

Now, I acknowledge that other hitch systems have a lateral bar behind the car grille that performs some of this task. But, they are almost one foot behind the attachment point to the tow bar, and there is a lot of adverse leverage on the arms that come out of the car before they can distribute the lateral force. They have to be really beefy to get the same strength as the Roadmaster, which is already very beefy.

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I looked at the specs on the Roadmaster All-Terrain. After seeing if it would be compatible with my Jeep..... Sad to say it isn't. But, like I said, I read the comments of others and if there is something better, I will consider it. This tow bar sounds good and the price is in line with others. But it still needs a brake system.
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I tow a 2017 Jeep Cherokee behind a 2013 Forester 3011DS. I use a Demco Doninator tow bar with a Stay-n-Play braking system. I couldn’t be happier with the setup. Hookup and unhooking is effortless. The Jeep trails behind the RV perfectly. The Stay-n-Play braking system is a permanent instillation and only requires the flip of a toggle switch for use. And there is no “big brake box inside the vehicle.” The box is installed in the engine compartment with a cable running through the firewall to the break peddle.
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I tow a 2017 F-150 4X4 with a blue ox tow bar and stay and play braking system, dealer installed with 4 pin connector so all lights and brakes work from it. Tow bar is connected and disconnected in 5 min or less by one person.
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We tow a 2012 Liberty behind our 2014 Lexington 300GS with a Ready Brute tow bar and a Blue Ox base plate. System works great. Never had a problem.
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I tow a 2017 4 Door Jeep Renegade behind a 2018 Isata 36 DS, with a Ram 5500 Chassis, I use the Blue OX tow bar and love the ease of connecting and disconnecting the Jeep. The big Ram doesn't know the Jeep is in tow and for 5000 mile and I haven't found a need to add braking, but after reading some of the comments I think a braking package is next on my list.
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following. We have a 2018 Ford Explorer we plan to tow when we finally get on the road. All good info here.Thanks everyone!
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I tow a 2017 Jeep Cherokee behind a 2013 Forester 3011DS. I use a Demco Doninator tow bar with a Stay-n-Play braking system. I couldn’t be happier with the setup. Hookup and unhooking is effortless. The Jeep trails behind the RV perfectly. The Stay-n-Play braking system is a permanent instillation and only requires the flip of a toggle switch for use. And there is no “big brake box inside the vehicle.” The box is installed in the engine compartment with a cable running through the firewall to the break peddle.
Thanks. I'm looking at that break system.
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