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01-21-2014, 06:35 PM
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air brakes
When I release the airbrakes on my 2010 Charleston, it is not fully releasing. When I put it in drive, it does not readily move forward. I can then go to reverse and back to drive and it does ok. Also, when accelerating, I hear a small air leak. Are the two connected? Any help appreciated.
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01-21-2014, 06:39 PM
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Yes they are connected air brakes need air if it is leaking then there is not enough air for the brakes.
Brakes will release at or about 60 PSI but will be soft and unsafe.
What kind of pressure do you have showing?
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01-21-2014, 06:49 PM
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75 lbs plus. Any idea of where the leak could be?
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01-21-2014, 06:51 PM
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If you have 75 lbs + that should be plenty to fully release brakes.
Has the unit been sitting awhile?
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01-21-2014, 06:53 PM
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Setting since early November.
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01-21-2014, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanford
75 lbs plus. Any idea of where the leak could be?
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No idea at all.
How long did you let it run and build air?
Will it build air to 100-110 PSI?
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01-21-2014, 07:02 PM
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15 -20 minutes. No, it will not build up to that level.
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01-21-2014, 07:04 PM
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You should have automatic moisture ejectors on your brake system on the coach. Is that what you hear "leaking"? They will, from time to time, "spit out" (for lack of a better term) any moisture that is in the air that is delivered from the air compressor.
In this weather, if you don't have heated ejectors, they could be freezing up, and remaining open, allowing air to bleed off. 75 psi sounds a little low for air brake pressure. Our school buses used to run higher brake pressures than that.
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01-21-2014, 07:04 PM
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I see this plenty.
The drum shoe surfaces rust very easily and the shoes grab tight to this rough surface and acts like brakes are applied.
If brakes are adjusted properly there's normally a minimal gap between shoe and drun surface.
Air leak may be unrelated but dont rule it out, will pressure build to over a hundred and "pop" off?
Is is relatively cold there or no?
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01-21-2014, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Mike
You should have automatic moisture ejectors on your brake system on the coach. Is that what you hear "leaking"? They will, from time to time, "spit out" (for lack of a better term) any moisture that is in the air that is delivered from the air compressor.
In this weather, if you don't have heated ejectors, they could be freezing up, and remaining open, allowing air to bleed off. 75 psi sounds a little low for air brake pressure. Our school buses used to run higher brake pressures than that.
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Air dryer is what they are called.
https://www.google.com/#q=truck+air+dryer
Biggest problem with them is a lot of people do not bother to service them.
I would start at the air compressor and then the air cans on the brakes.
Also check the brake air tank and see if the bleeder valve is open.
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01-21-2014, 07:11 PM
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Not familiar with the heated ejectors. We have had an unusually cold and wet winter. Sounds like I need to have this checked out regardless.
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01-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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I also have a 2009 Charleston, from my post years ago: My 2009 had this issue since new. It would take up to 15 minutes before the second air tank to stop buzzing. Last time out it stopped altogether, crawled underneath while it was running and found the brake dryer release safety valve had failed, blowing out all the air. $20 later and its better than new now. I found the part number on this forum, and a truck repair place had it in stock, if you have time you can order it on ebay for like $15.
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