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06-22-2016, 07:36 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
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3010DS first trip... and second too...
Our 2016 3010DS was stocked and ready to go. The 2010 Ford Escape was rigged with Blue Ox and ready to go, confirmed by Ford and set up by Ford Service for flat towing... (you can see where this is going). Our first stop out of Marietta GA was Tupelo MS, 296 miles. We Stopped twice and "started the toad and ran the gears". Arriving Tupelo, toad would not start. I had installed the charge line from the coach. I replaced the battery... no go. The tranny had boiled and toasted. So, we called AAA, put the Escape on the flat bed, and sent it back to the dealer who OKed the flat tow...
After a bit of back and forth with dealer, they replaced the tranny and installed a Remco tranny pump kit... total of about $8500 retail total, and they completely covered the bill.
I have a 2010 Escape that should be flat towable... but I just dont trust it.
We restarted the trip without a toad, and rented a car in Jackson Hole, at the airport... and returned to Marietta 7 weeks later... good trip.
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06-22-2016, 07:44 AM
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DW's 401(k) Plan
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Western MD
Posts: 2,372
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Hmmm...... lots of encouragement for my first "toad" experience coming up next week. But, mine is an older Jeep Liberty 4x4. So far, no problems just towing it around town to get adjusted to it.
Good luck with the Escape.
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"Sunny" the 2017 Sunseeker 3010DS
2006 Jeep Liberty Toad
.... and lovin' life........MOST of the time.
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06-22-2016, 07:44 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
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And, the 3010DS was great! It was stable through high winds, and high altitudes. A pin on the rear passenger leveler "Up Switch" bent, and the "All Up" light would not come on. Call to BigFoot, quick answer, vice grips to straighten the pin and all was well.
That was about 20 minutes, and we will replace the switch. A drawer latch came apart, I had to adjust the inner screen door latch to release properly. All in all a really trivial set of issues with the motor home.
We are adding a few coat hooks and stick up boxes for stuff in the Bath room.
So, anyone looking for an Escape that is totally prepared, Remco too... we will probably look for a Jeep....
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06-22-2016, 10:28 AM
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DW's 401(k) Plan
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Western MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1230
So, anyone looking for an Escape that is totally prepared, Remco too... we will probably look for a Jeep....
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Atta Boy! Love my Jeeps!
BTW, thanks for the report on the rest of the "problems" you had with the 3010DS.
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"Sunny" the 2017 Sunseeker 3010DS
2006 Jeep Liberty Toad
.... and lovin' life........MOST of the time.
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06-22-2016, 12:21 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 61
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1230
And, the 3010DS was great! It was stable through high winds, and high altitudes. A pin on the rear passenger leveler "Up Switch" bent, and the "All Up" light would not come on. Call to BigFoot, quick answer, vice grips to straighten the pin and all was well.
That was about 20 minutes, and we will replace the switch. A drawer latch came apart, I had to adjust the inner screen door latch to release properly. All in all a really trivial set of issues with the motor home.
We are adding a few coat hooks and stick up boxes for stuff in the Bath room.
So, anyone looking for an Escape that is totally prepared, Remco too... we will probably look for a Jeep....
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I'm always looking for storage ideas for our 3120, so I'm curious - what are "stick up boxes"?
Glad you wound up having a great time!
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06-22-2016, 12:43 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 21
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Camco makes those wooden boxes that have sticky tape on the back edges. I use epoxy though, the tape comes loose with time...
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06-22-2016, 01:12 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Southeastern PA
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Thanks, I will look those up!
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06-22-2016, 01:32 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaGrinch
Hmmm...... lots of encouragement for my first "toad" experience coming up next week. But, mine is an older Jeep Liberty 4x4. So far, no problems just towing it around town to get adjusted to it.
Good luck with the Escape.
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DaGrinch
I have been towing my 2010 Jeep Liberty 4/4 behind my Georgetown for two years and it tows great! Just follow the instructions in the manual and your good to go, this is my first Jeep and I love it!
Happy travels!
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06-22-2016, 01:47 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1230
Our 2016 3010DS was stocked and ready to go. The 2010 Ford Escape was rigged with Blue Ox and ready to go, confirmed by Ford and set up by Ford Service for flat towing... (you can see where this is going). Our first stop out of Marietta GA was Tupelo MS, 296 miles. We Stopped twice and "started the toad and ran the gears". Arriving Tupelo, toad would not start. I had installed the charge line from the coach. I replaced the battery... no go. The tranny had boiled and toasted. So, we called AAA, put the Escape on the flat bed, and sent it back to the dealer who OKed the flat tow...
After a bit of back and forth with dealer, they replaced the tranny and installed a Remco tranny pump kit... total of about $8500 retail total, and they completely covered the bill.
I have a 2010 Escape that should be flat towable... but I just dont trust it.
We restarted the trip without a toad, and rented a car in Jackson Hole, at the airport... and returned to Marietta 7 weeks later... good trip.
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Mike 1230
I have a friend that purchased a new motorhome and a new Ford Escape, dealer told her ok to tow, after two transmissions she bought a Jeep.
Sorry about your troubles.
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06-22-2016, 03:11 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 6
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I tow a 2013 Toyota corolla 5 speed manual with no problems all 4 wheels down
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06-22-2016, 04:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 301
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
DaGrinch
I have been towing my 2010 Jeep Liberty 4/4 behind my Georgetown for two years and it tows great! Just follow the instructions in the manual and your good to go, this is my first Jeep and I love it!
Happy travels!
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That is why we went to Jeep easy to set up to tow and never have.had any problems. .
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06-22-2016, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
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My mechanic said not to try towing my wife's 2 wheel drive Escape but if it were 4 WD it would be fine. Towed daughters Chevy instead. Now tow a 5er,,,
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06-22-2016, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Tucson AZ
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I have a new 2700 DSF Sunseeker towing a 2008 Jeep Liberty wheels down with Blue Ox tow bar & Patriot secondary brake system.. No problems, at least, so far. Nothing in Jeep book stating reqmt of a transmission pump requirement.
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06-22-2016, 06:28 PM
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DW's 401(k) Plan
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Western MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrle
That is why we went to Jeep easy to set up to tow and never have.had any problems. .
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When we bought the 3010DS and started thinking about a toad, we were disappointed when we found we couldn't tow DW's new Renegade. We dropped back to our 2nd option, the Liberty. Other than the 3010DS, only Jeeps sit in our driveway. Our son bought our '04 Grand Cherokee a couple of years ago.
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"Sunny" the 2017 Sunseeker 3010DS
2006 Jeep Liberty Toad
.... and lovin' life........MOST of the time.
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06-22-2016, 06:57 PM
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Citrus County, Fl.
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hernando, Fl
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2015 Corolla 6 speed manual. All I have to do is run it 3 minutes before driving. I also get 40 mpg on the highway with it.
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2016 Forester 3011DS
2017 Toyota Corolla SE toad
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06-22-2016, 08:09 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Indian Lake, OH
Posts: 49
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Bought a 2016 Sunseeker 3010DS in January, our first RV ever. After the decision was made to purchase the RV, we knew the toad would be a Jeep Wrangler because of the manual transfer case. Since January, we have flat towed the Wranger 5,500 miles using a Blue Ox tow bar set up and Brake Buddy system. NO problems and NO regrets.
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06-24-2016, 07:53 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 86
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Bought a four-door Wrangler in early 2008 more than three years before our first RV, a 3170 bought in late 2011. From Oklahoma we have towed the Wrangler to Nevada, Texas, Florida, and South Carolina (Texas, Florida, and South Carolina more than once) without a problem. The Wrangler is my daily driver and I may never sell it. I understand the newer Wranglers do not have a steering wheel lock, which would be convenient. We also love our 3170.
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06-24-2016, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Central, Fl.
Posts: 1,330
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Any issues with flat towing Jeep Wranglers with Mud Terrian type tires ?
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2012 Ford F-150 Ecoboost, Screw, H/D, 3.73
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2014 Jeep Rubicon JK
Going where the weather suits my clothes.
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06-24-2016, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Port Orange Fl / Garden City Michigan
Posts: 699
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We tow our Wrangler, It has 35 Inch tires and a 4 inch supension lift, Never any problems towing it.
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06-24-2016, 03:22 PM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 86
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My Wrangler has M/S tires and has seen no unusual tire wear over the 20,000 plus miles we have towed it. A friend of mine has a 2010 four door Wrangler with a, I believe, two inch lift and much more aggressive tires. He tows behind his RV and his front tires have scalloped a bit, but not much. His Wrangler is also his daily driver. A tire store told him that it was from towing; that the Wrangler's front end was hunting. But then the tire store guy may have never been in a motorhome, may drive a Miata, and may have no real time basis for his opinion. I really don't know. Someone else told him it might be worn front shocks, which I could believe sooner than towing. In any event, my friend hasn't stopped towing his Wrangler.
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