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Old 03-29-2017, 12:05 AM   #1
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Ford E450 Caster settings

I know we've had discussions before on this and I need a refresher. Had 2 alignments and they were supposed to set the caster high. I paid for the bushings. It's pulling hard to the left now and I am taking it in tomorrow morning. I photoed the bushings. These aren't high are they? The first alignment shop had 3/4˚ on each. The new shop has these 2˚on driver's side and 1˚on passenger's. Though we suggestions to have the caster at 4˚???
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:38 AM   #2
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I would set it high end (or even over) of the spec.
Did you put on a Bilstein Stabilizer? with the spring?
If so- check that, It may have slipped out of center causing the pulling.
If not- your left side may have settled more.
If it's pulling left, you have excessive left caster or lay back of the steering axis.
Sometimes, left and rt will NOT be the same to get a steer-straight condition (most of the time)
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Are you taking it to Bobs in Chatsworth today?
I will be over there later.
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Check air pressures also- low air will also cause it to pull.
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:48 AM   #5
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Are you taking it to Bobs in Chatsworth today?
I will be over there later.
Yep, Here now!
They are good and knowledgeable!
Matt says the driver side is off and could be the reason for the pull.
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:53 AM   #6
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Sage,

Are they doing an electronic alignment where you get a printout when it's all done?
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Old 03-29-2017, 01:08 PM   #7
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Are they doing an electronic alignment where you get a printout when it's all done?
No, the do it the old fashioned way.

They aligned it and test drove. Said there is still a problem in that the inner and outer tie rods are very loose. I did a video of it, but can't seem to get it posted from my iPhone.
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Tie Rod inner and outer too Loose!

Here's what the alignment shop discovered. Ford dealer says under warranty, but would have to leave it for 2 weeks. We have 4 trips planned in the coming 2 months. Does Ford do a reimbursement full or partial for outside warranty work?
Service department at Ford dealer is checking to see if it's safe to drive.
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Here's what the alignment shop discovered. Ford dealer says under warranty, but would have to leave it for 2 weeks. We have 4 trips planned in the coming 2 months. Does Ford do a reimbursement full or partial for outside warranty work?
Service department at Ford dealer is checking to see if it's safe to drive.
Wow. That does seem pretty loose.
Was it loaded? (on the ground and weighted) when you took the vid?
Is there actually "play" in the rod ends? Or just a loose condition.
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All things being even. A vehicle will pull toward positive Camber or negative Caster
The more positive Cadter the more stable it will be. Negative (or less) Caster mskes it wander or be more unstable.
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:50 PM   #11
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Wow. That does seem pretty loose.
Was it loaded? (on the ground and weighted) when you took the vid?
Is there actually "play" in the rod ends? Or just a loose condition.
Did you go to Bob's?
That was video taken with the wheels on the ground. Went down the block to a neighbor with a similar RV and his moved about 25-33% of what mine did. Awaiting Bob's call back with estimate. Ford dealer said to call Ford and explain issue and lack of a facility to do the repair in a timely manner. See what they say.
Total loss can you view the video? I can't!
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Did you go to Bob's?
That was video taken with the wheels on the ground. Went down the block to a neighbor with a similar RV and his moved about 25-33% of what mine did. Awaiting Bob's call back with estimate. Ford dealer said to call Ford and explain issue and lack of a facility to do the repair in a timely manner. See what they say.
Total loss can you view the video? I can't!
I didn't go by there yesterday- ran out of time chasing a truck around the valley trying to do an inspection.
I did see the video- it looks very loose.
How was the driver side tie rod to the spindle?
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Total loss, they all look loose. Way too much rotation.
Called Ford and front end isn't covered under warranty. However if the tie rods are a Ford product and defective, then they are. They said a Ford dealer would have the see that they are defective and Ford product. Then do the job. No dealers other than Galpin can handle vehicles that size and they can't get me in. Going to have Bob do it.. Looks worse than a year ago when I put on the Bilstein steering stabilizer.
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Does the video play?

I sent the video up as .mov file and it now shows unable to view. Has anyone viewed it?
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I just watched it... That is dangerously loose in my opinion!

Regarding the video, if I want to watch it a second time I have to back out of the thread and come back in to get it to run again. It will not replay for me any other way. I'm using my Chromebook so that may be the issue...
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Old 03-30-2017, 07:09 PM   #16
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Thanks for the update on the video.
I talked to Ford again and will have the alignment shop repair them. The shop will call Ford and try to get an authorization to do the work and reimburse. If that fails, I will submit to Ford Reimbursement Consideration dept as my last hope.
The alignment shop tech said it was driving straight and then pull to the left all of a sudden.. So I'm not going crazy!
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Sagecoachdriver ... hope you get things worked out. I had my 2017 2861 DS done after 2000 miles on it . Total cost with bushings was around $140.00 Also installed a " Roadmaster Stabilizer " WoW what a difference. Good luck . Keep us updated thanks. God Bless. Tony
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Video will not play on my IPod !

Good luck, and hopefully that can be completed before you trip(s) !
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I'll definitely get by Bobs maybe next week and check this out.
I am intrigued also with so few miles.
My Chevy rod ends seemed pretty snug when I added the stabilizer.
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:57 PM   #20
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Took the MH into Bob's today and they replaced the inner and outer tie rods. I took a much better video of the movement. No rotation with the new tie rods. Hoping Ford will reimburse me for the tie rods and alignment. Drove home and it's a hundred percent better. Straight with no wandering. Tech said the caster is set above 4˚ on both sides. Going to the beach tomorrow for a few days so I'll post a review
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