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06-17-2020, 08:33 AM
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Kanadian Kamper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 8,185
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Hey Ford E450 owners!
We take possession of a new to us 2018 Sunseeker at the end of the month.
Has anyone addressed the wide open area circled in the photo attached?
I can’t believe Ford leaves it this open REGARDLESS of what will be attached to the cutaway cab. Seems to be just asking for trouble from road debris into the radiator and cooling fins. 
Even the main grill seems to be rather open, but it does have a bit more grill work.
Am I the only one concerned here? 
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Ken and Terry
2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD, nicely modified and carried by a 2017 Ford E450 Sport
Former Georgetown 330TS owner for 10 years with more mods than I can count, pushed by our 2017 GMC Terrain
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06-17-2020, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mount Laurel, New Jersey
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I put a billet grill in mine just to change the look. All the front openings look the same now. But, to answer your question, that is not a problem being open. There are thousands like that and I never heard of a problem.
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06-17-2020, 08:52 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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I guess I don't understand your concern?
What do you believe is going to jump up off the road and cause damage?
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F&AM Lodge 358 Somerset, PA - JAFFA Shrine - Altoona, PA
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06-17-2020, 09:01 AM
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Kanadian Kamper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 8,185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
I guess I don't understand your concern?
What do you believe is going to jump up off the road and cause damage?
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Road debris is stones, rocks, tire chunks off trucks especially, etc etc.
Lots of people have stone chips, cracks and broken windshields.
Look carefully at the lead edge of your vehicle and witness the chips in your paint, grill and mirrors.
It’s nasty out there.
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Ken and Terry
2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD, nicely modified and carried by a 2017 Ford E450 Sport
Former Georgetown 330TS owner for 10 years with more mods than I can count, pushed by our 2017 GMC Terrain
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06-17-2020, 09:34 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,152
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I thought PA roads were the worst but I guess Canada has us beat.
3 years on my current F-250 and not a single stone chip in the leading edge of the hood, grill, bumper or mirrors and it is a daily driver used in winter months as well. I will consider myself lucky!
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F&AM Lodge 358 Somerset, PA - JAFFA Shrine - Altoona, PA
Days Camped ☼ '19=118 ☼ '20=116 ☼ '21=123 ☼ '22=134 ☼ '23=118☼ '24=90
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06-17-2020, 10:05 AM
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RV There Yet?
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Winona, MN
Posts: 1,141
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find a good LED light bar that fits in that area and call it a day!
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06-17-2020, 10:09 AM
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Kanadian Kamper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 8,185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IsleDog
find a good LED light bar that fits in that area and call it a day!
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Shhhhhh. That’s a boy toy idea I wanna do. 
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Ken and Terry
2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD, nicely modified and carried by a 2017 Ford E450 Sport
Former Georgetown 330TS owner for 10 years with more mods than I can count, pushed by our 2017 GMC Terrain
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06-17-2020, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9,939
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I assume that the area is there for air flow. ??
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06-17-2020, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
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I wouldn't block that opening, there is an air dam behind that pushing air up to the trans cooler I think.
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06-17-2020, 10:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virginia
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My 05 dodge has a similar opening . Never had anything cause damage.
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06-17-2020, 11:02 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 85
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That’s where I mounted the air horns. Wide open area let’s them know I’m coming!
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06-17-2020, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lindsay, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 169
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Canadian reply
I've been driving my E450 for 5 years now up in the Great White North and never had an issue with that opening.
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06-17-2020, 12:41 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
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I've seen dealer demo videos that advertise that opening as a foothold to step up on to assist while cleaning windshield etc.
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06-17-2020, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 279
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Thousands ( probably hundreds of thousands) of those rigs out there and I never heard of any issues. The more air flow the better IMO.
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06-17-2020, 02:08 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 47
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E450 Lower Opening Grill
I have an E450 Forest River and Bought a Grill that fits perfectly in the lower opening. Got it at Amazon. If you want I can send you a picture of the Grill Just send me your email and I will forward the picture.
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06-17-2020, 02:18 PM
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Citrus County, Fl.
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hernando, Fl
Posts: 2,368
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As others have stated, never really heard of any disasters cause from the opening being there. Great place to put my shoes when I am cleaning bugs off the windshield that you can't otherwise reach.
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06-17-2020, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Western AZ
Posts: 2,404
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As you stated, taking possession of. Hopefully, you will find something to ease your concerns, after all, it is yours now;o)
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06-17-2020, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Southern Delaware
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IsleDog
find a good LED light bar that fits in that area and call it a day!
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Make sure to aim it down to the road. Those things are blinding when not installed properly.
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06-17-2020, 03:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Western AZ
Posts: 2,404
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Remember now the light bar takes the beating 
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06-17-2020, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 4,330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ppottier
I've seen dealer demo videos that advertise that opening as a foothold to step up on to assist while cleaning windshield etc.
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My RV dealer, at motorhome PDI, suggested that grill hole could be used as a step for windshield access. I was very annoyed when he stood on my new bumper to demonstrate.
The hole appears to be for air flow, and at first I didn’t see anything fragile in there that could be damaged, but on further inspection I see the lower section of the A/C condenser is visible through that hole. It is set a ways back, but I guess a rock could hit the condenser.
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