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Old 05-08-2016, 08:25 PM   #1
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How many qts of oil in the Ford V10?

I downloaded a PDF manual for the Ford E-450 with the V10. It states that the engine takes 6 qts of oil. When I changed it recently, 6 qts only put the level just over half way between the two holes in the dipstick. The oil filter does seem to be on a remote mount, did Sunseeker add that? Does it add more capacity?

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How many qts of oil in the Ford V10?

6qts. 7qts will overfill. If you are concerned, drain, change filter, add 6, crank to fill filter, give time to drain, check. Add just enough to bring it to the stick where you want it.
My question is this, I have a riveted 2 piece dip stick, wonder if they are the same length.
Filter is a remote mount, drivers side. I assume it is a ford placement.

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6.5 quarts with a filter change.
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And for all us that use metric 5.7 liters
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6.5 quarts with a filter change.

You folks are assuming the dipstick is correct! The engine block is more accurate and quantity established by Ford. Excess level will allow foaming and engine damage. E450 calls for 6 quarts, F53 is 7 quarts. Your rig, suggest tread lightly when reengineering.
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You folks are assuming the dipstick is correct! The engine block is more accurate and quantity established by Ford. Excess level will allow foaming and engine damage. E450 calls for 6 quarts, F53 is 7 quarts. Your rig, suggest tread lightly when reengineering.
#1What does "You folks are assuming the dipstick is correct" mean??
#2 What does "suggest tread lightly when reengineering" mean??
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#1What does "You folks are assuming the dipstick is correct" mean??
#2 What does "suggest tread lightly when reengineering" mean??
I guess they think that maybe FR moved the Oil Filter ???
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I guess. Strange. And I am not going to try to figure out
"The engine block is more accurate and quantity established by Ford".
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I have read too many stories where an engine had the wrong dip stick installed. Some seem to have happened at the factory but others may have happened afterwards during a previous service visit.

Do the Ford dipsticks have a part number on them? If so, check to confirm that you have the correct dipstick for your engine. If not, try to compare your dip stick to a brand new vehicle which may confirm that you have the correct version.
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Don't sweat it. The V-10 is very forgiving, 6.5-7 is fine. I always use 7qts in mine but I let it drain for along time as the oil cooler holds a bit. Always at the upper limit when I'm done.
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I have read too many stories where an engine had the wrong dip stick installed. Some seem to have happened at the factory but others may have happened afterwards during a previous service visit.

Do the Ford dipsticks have a part number on them? If so, check to confirm that you have the correct dipstick for your engine. If not, try to compare your dip stick to a brand new vehicle which may confirm that you have the correct version.
40 + years automotive aftermarket. Parts dept, Warehouse manager. Service writer and never encountered a vehicle that had the wrong oil or any fluid dip stick. Send me a link of a couple should be interesting reading.
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#1What does "You folks are assuming the dipstick is correct" mean??
#2 What does "suggest tread lightly when reengineering" mean??

Miket, not sure what got you going, but here's some more factoids. There are actually two versions of the V10, both still in production. The original was 20 valves, approx 300 HP. It was famous for spitting out spark plugs and breaking exhaust valve studs. Both very expensive repairs. The newer engine has 30 valves (3/cyl) delivers 360 HP. It is fitted with a modified oil filter which extends down further 3" inches lower than original with the filter attached. I've owned both engines and the 1st was the 2 valve version. 1st oil change same issue, dipstick showed low level. I counted 6 cans and called Ford. They instructed 6 quarts only. The dipstick was riveted with zero markings except two hash marks.

6 quarts for the less HP 2 valve and 7 quarts, for the larger HP unit with cooler and larger oil pan.

They are not interchangeable and 18% over fill is begging for trouble. Replacement engines run 3500 -6000, not covered by ins or warranty. Rengineering is modification of factory specs. I also have a Cummins engine only its 8.9 liter, 450 HP

Attached is a chart by Ford showing uses of truck engines the class C uses the 20 valve engine, the class A uses the 30 valve engine. Therefore the Sunseeker in post 1 should be the 6 quart refill, not 6.5 or 7.


The 6.8 L (6760 cc, 413 CID) V10 is another variation of the Modular family created for use in large trucks. Bore size is 90.2 mm (3.552 in) and stroke is 105.8 mm (4.165 in), identical to the 5.4 L V8. Both 2-valve and 3-valve versions are currently produced. The 6.8 L uses a split-pin crank with 72 firing intervals and a balance shaft to quell vibrations inherent to a 90 bank angle V10 engine. The engine's firing order is 1-6-5-10-2-7-3-8-4-9. The 2-valve version was first introduced in 1997, with a 3-valve non-VCT version to follow in 2005. The 3-valve engines were built alongside the 2-valve engines at Ford's Windsor, Ontario LVL engine line, but moved production to the larger Windsor Engine Plant in 2009.
Vehicles equipped with the 6.8 L V10 Modular engine include the following:
[edit]2-valve
1997present Ford E-Series, 2-valve SOHC, 305 hp (227 kW) and 420 lbft (569 Nm) ratings for 2000 and later model years
19992004 Ford F-Series Super Duty, 2-valve SOHC, 310 hp (231 kW) and 425 lbft (576 Nm) ratings for 2000 and later model years
20002005 Ford Excursion, 2-valve SOHC, 310 hp (231 kW) and 425 lbft (576 Nm)
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[edit]3-valve
20052010 Ford F-Series Super Duty, 3-valve SOHC, 362 hp (270 kW) and 457 lbft (620 Nm).
2005-2013 F450/F550 chassis cabs
2012 Ford F-650 & Ford F-750, 3-valve SOHC, 362 hp (270 kW) and 457 lbft (620 Nm).[38]



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Thanks for the long dissertation however 40 plus years around vehicles (parts dept. warehouse manager service writer) never ran in to a vehicle with the wrong dipstick. hope this helps with what you "GOT GOING"
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Wanted to post a final update for anyone who finds this thread in the future. Apparently I didn't give the oil enough time to reach the pan. I checked it today and it is dead full. So 6 qts is all it takes.
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Wanted to post a final update for anyone who finds this thread in the future. Apparently I didn't give the oil enough time to reach the pan. I checked it today and it is dead full. So 6 qts is all it takes.
Right On !!! 6 Qts worked for me !!!
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40 + years automotive aftermarket. Parts dept, Warehouse manager. Service writer and never encountered a vehicle that had the wrong oil or any fluid dip stick. Send me a link of a couple should be interesting reading.
Older articles were not digitized but here are two for your reading pleasure.

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_0901015.pdf

https://books.google.com/books?id=SW...-g4HhDoAQgMMAE (page 111 if it does not load to this one)
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Older articles were not digitized but here are two for your reading pleasure.

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_0901015.pdf

https://books.google.com/books?id=SW...-g4HhDoAQgMMAE (page 111 if it does not load to this one)

Good show old Boy! We're right on from the outset. Suspect Ford has jobbers modify the sticks for longer reach for motor homes, some were calibrated wrong. If the builder said 6 quarts add 6. If 7 and etc. Better 1/2 qt low than high.
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Well that's one that said "probably" What year was the article printed? Millions of vehicles out there and we have one probable. I want to see an actual statement about a customer having the wrong dipstick installed!
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Well that's one that said "probably" What year was the article printed? Millions of vehicles out there and we have one probable. I want to see an actual statement about a customer having the wrong dipstick installed!

I suspect the that you didn't see or read the first link in my previous message. It referred to and led to a Dodge service bulletin.

I have the time but not the inclination to drag this on. Anyone that wants more proof can do a Google search similar to this...

"GM and oil dipstick" one can substitute Ford, Toyota, etc in the search criteria.

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