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Old 11-12-2018, 05:46 AM   #1
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Newbie first time boondocking and heat question

I just purchased a 2016 Forester 3011class c. I am planning on tailgating this weekend and won't have access to electric. Temps are going to be in the 20s overnight. I will fill my 40lb propane tank and use that for the fridge and furnace. I will charge batteries on drive 6 hours and use my generator while parked. Will I have enough propane for two days? Will the batteries run the furnace overnight or will I need to also run the generator overnight? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:36 AM   #2
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If you are planning on running your generator, and you won’t be bothering others around you, why not use electric heat as much as you can? If you can’t do that, 40 pounds of propane should be enough for a weekend, especially if you are conservative with the temperature on your thermostat. You will still need to run your generator, at minimum, to keep your batteries charged, because the furnace will drain them pretty quickly. Depending on the condition of the batteries, there should be enough juice to keep your furnace going overnight.

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Old 11-13-2018, 06:34 AM   #3
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Yes propane and batteries should last. It will use propane fast but I got almost a week.

You need to use propane furnace to keep the water bay warm. Also you need isolate your outside shower. It is the first to freeze. Had to replace mine already.
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Thanks. Didn’t even think about outside shower. I was thinking that it has been drained and since I wasn’t going to use it, it would be ok. Do you have an idea of how to isolate in my rv. (Forester 3011ds)?
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Just returned from 2 days in the desert with lows about 28.
Used about 1/4 tank of propane for the heater, oven and furnace.
Just start the generator and run for an hour in the morning and an hour at night at least.
Batteries should be good (as log as they are in good shape) enough to start the generator in the morning. Mine are over 3 years old and do fine still.
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pick up a Mr. Heater and stay toasty with just propane no electric usage at all...
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:07 PM   #7
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If you use your house batteries to run the furnace and they go flat, the batteries may not crank the generator. If this happens, start the coach and idle for a bit to charge the house batteries so you can start the generator.
If you run your fridge on propane, it will alarm when batteries get low.
For a cheap monitor, crude but better than, nothing to monitor the batteries. Get a battery volt only meter that will plug into any 12 volt house socket, i.e. TV plug. The dash board power outlets get there power from the coach battery. It comes with a handy card and green, yellow, red lights.
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pick up a Mr. Heater and stay toasty with just propane no electric usage at all...


Have you had a lot of real-life experience using these indoors? I know they’re supposed to be safe but it makes me really nervous. I have one for use in my clam tent and it’s amazing...
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Have you had a lot of real-life experience using these indoors? I know they’re supposed to be safe but it makes me really nervous. I have one for use in my clam tent and it’s amazing...
I use one in my pottery studio and Works great. Keeps the studio warm and zero problems with air quality.
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Yes propane and batteries should last. It will use propane fast but I got almost a week.

You need to use propane furnace to keep the water bay warm. Also you need isolate your outside shower. It is the first to freeze. Had to replace mine already.
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I got the idea from this thread. Really easy to do.

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http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...d.php?t=150431
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:35 PM   #11
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You’ll be fine.
Just got home from a week long hunting trip in northern Arizona.
I have 2 x 20 gallon propane tanks and a generator.
Propane ran the fridge full time. Furnace had some issues. So I just pulled out my extra sleeping bag. Very cold in the morning but my base layer kept me nice and toasty. Wool socks and base layer. No cotton.
Came home with 1 full tank of propane and plenty of gas in the generator.
The only thing that ran low was the beer. Had to restock.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:42 PM   #12
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Newbie first time boondocking and heat question

Agree with use the electric heater if you are away from others. As for the mr buddy heater I use it too but I crack a window or vent. Don’t use it any higher than low. Could melt something.

And getting a simple 12v voltage monitor is the best thing you can do to accurately see where your batteries are at under $20!
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One caution, we camped as low as 4 degrees last winter and week plus well below freezing. If you have a supplemental heater it keeps the camper warm and your propane furnace off but that means no heat is getting to your water bays. I had remote temperature sensor in both water bays and running the propane heater was needed to keep them above freezing. I insulated the water bay some to keep heat in better and plan to add 12v heaters prior to next winter camping trip.
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I agree with the battery monitor for any camper. I installed one in my 5th wheel to verify battery condition. We were camping once with full hook-ups and the CG lost power during a storm. Well the battery only lasted about 1 hour. Checked it later and found dead cell. Then I replaced the single 12 volt with 2 six volt batteries and monitoring system. The battery box is vented to the outside and I regularly test the batteries. No more problems since this install.
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Have you had a lot of real-life experience using these indoors? I know they’re supposed to be safe but it makes me really nervous. I have one for use in my clam tent and it’s amazing...
Used one many, many nights while boondocking in our previous TT. I will crack open two windows for piece of mind but otherwise no worries.
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Thanks everyone

Thanks for all the great advice. I feel better about my first trip out in the cold with a rig that I still don't know. I will be buying a Mr. Buddy as backup, but also for when I am hanging outside of the RV and general use around my house when not camping. The discussion on the battery monitor had me wondering about the condition of the batteries and I will definitely be getting one. A little concerned as I am not sure how the previous owner maintained the batteries as I found the cells dry. I know they can hold a charge, I am just not sure for how long.

Thanks again all.
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I follow a guy on you tube and he uses the Mr. Buddy heater and he cracks a window
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I agree with the battery monitor for any camper. I installed one in my 5th wheel to verify battery condition. We were camping once with full hook-ups and the CG lost power during a storm. Well the battery only lasted about 1 hour. Checked it later and found dead cell. Then I replaced the single 12 volt with 2 six volt batteries and monitoring system. The battery box is vented to the outside and I regularly test the batteries. No more problems since this install.
what kind of battery monitor is that?
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Did you get a chance to test your set up before leaving? I find that it's best to work out the kinks before hitting the road, especially when adverse conditions are expected.

Be sure your CO alarm has a fresh battery.

If I were you, on a first trip like this, I'd hope for the best but would have a back up plan (know where closest hotel is, with the ability to get there, for example) just in case things aren't working out in the middle of the night for some reason.

Good luck and have fun!
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