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Old 04-13-2019, 05:10 PM   #1
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Only 1,300 miles in 12 months, change the oil?

We only drove 1,300 miles in the past 12 months and expect to do the same in the coming 12 months. Only a 600 mile round trip to Yosemite and 350 mile round trip to Morro Bay, the rest were 140 mile round trips to the beach. Nothing longer than the 140 mile round trips for the coming 5 months. I'm using Motorcraft 5-40w syn blend. I don't want to get into a discuss of oil, just does anyone think I can hold off a few months or do it now. I'm in SoCal and mild climate.
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Old 04-13-2019, 05:18 PM   #2
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Every 12 months regardless of miles is cheap insurance. Your biggest issue with time vs miles is condensation.
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Every 12 months regardless of miles is cheap insurance. Your biggest issue with time vs miles is condensation.
Thanks, thatís what I thought.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:09 AM   #4
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I sometimes stretch it to 18 months on our lower mileage use vehicles, but they are stored inside in a heated garage.
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If you used full synthetic, you could stretch it IMO.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:21 PM   #6
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Go to full synthetic. You can go much longer than a year.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:53 PM   #7
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With that usage you would be wise to just get an oil sample test done, no point in throwing away good oil. Condensation doesnít occur unless there is a temperature change between the inside and outside of the oil pan. Just sitting unused will not cause that to occur.
It is always recommend by oil companies for a steady diet of money.
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If you are able to afford it, change the oil!

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Old 04-15-2019, 04:19 PM   #9
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I recommend full synthetic as well - it's not a lot more cost but it sure is a better lubricant and is more immune to moisture.

My $0.02 - If your unit has an oil maintenance reminder, don't change it until the monitor tells you too. Otherwise, it's just a waste of time and money. At 62 years old, I've never seen nor heard of an engine failure if the oil was not changed at some arbitrary mark such yearly or at 3K. As aircommuter so well stated, "It is always recommend by oil companies for a steady diet of money".
Do check your chassis owners manual for it's recommendataions, however.


Even on Dino, I've never changed mine on a time-basis. The 2004 Malibu spec'd Dino, and I regularly ran 7.5K on the change. I've changed the oil on our 2016 Sunseeker once; it has a lot of miles left on the last change, and won't be touched until the oil minder tells me it's time.

That all said, check it frequently, especially when you first acquire the unit. Running out of oil is waaaay worse than letting it go 5K to 10K miles....
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I would not change the oil with that few miles on it. Let me give you an example about condensation. I live in Southwest Louisiana, 30 miles inland from the gulf, humidity here is terrible. I installed a 60 gal. aluminum diesel fuel tank in the bed of my tow vehicle. Everyone said that I would get condensation and water in the tank and fuel. I have never had either, when I change the fuel filter on the truck, I always check the condensation bowl at bottom of fuel filter, never had any water in it. Your not going to get water in your oil from condensation and your oil is not going to go bad from just sitting there unused. The shelf life on 5W40 or 15W40 is five years. Hope this info helps with your decision.
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I would not change the oil with that few miles on it. Let me give you an example about condensation. I live in Southwest Louisiana, 30 miles inland from the gulf, humidity here is terrible. I installed a 60 gal. aluminum diesel fuel tank in the bed of my tow vehicle. Everyone said that I would get condensation and water in the tank and fuel. I have never had either, when I change the fuel filter on the truck, I always check the condensation bowl at bottom of fuel filter, never had any water in it. Your not going to get water in your oil from condensation and your oil is not going to go bad from just sitting there unused. The shelf life on 5W40 or 15W40 is five years. Hope this info helps with your decision.
Thanks, that’s the answer I was looking for. I used Motorcraft synblend in my Winnebago with the same engine for 12 years with no issues. Again, I don’t want to get into a discussion about oil and the extra cost of synthetic. Also, here in LA, there’s low humidity most of the year.
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You shouldn't be worried about condensation. That's not the main reason why you change the oil on a yearly basis. When you have combustion, some of the combustion blows past the rings and increases the acidity of the oil. It's why marine engine manufacturers always tell you to change the oil before you lay it up for the winter...you don't want all that contaminated oil sitting for longer than you need it to. To be honest, with so little miles, it really doesn't matter what type of oil you have in there. The advantage of synthetic oil is that it retains its viscosity over time over non synthetic. At 1300 miles like you have, that's a non issue.

Speaking of condensation, the way most engines get condensation has nothing to do with the humidity. Running the engine without allowing it to get up to operating temperature is how engine oil develops condensation from the combustion blowby and not running it long enough to burn it off. Usually not done with an RV but multiple short trips are what causes it the most. In a 4 stroke outboard motor that I own, I drained nearly a cup of water from my crankcase at the end of one season a few years back. Turned out I had a stuck open thermostat so the engine never got up to full operating temperature. My engine doesn't have a temp gauge so I never knew it. Bottom line, if you always run the engine to normal operating temperature for long periods of time, you will never have condensation in the oil.
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If the cost of an annual oil change is a financial burden, you need to park it and never drive it or sell it because you can't afford the RV.

Oil and filters are Cheap, Engines and related parts....not so much!
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If one were to do a study on vehicle engines that have run trouble free for 10 years or more you'd find that they all have one thing in common. Regular oil changes along with the accompanying maintenance that takes place when changing.

Oil is cheap maintenance and pays huge benefits over the life of the engine.

I'd change it once per year even if all it did was sit in a garage.

Engines that run almost all the time like Semi's, delivery trucks, taxi's, etc can go longer intervals with few problems because the oil is circulating through a filter and gets hot enough to keep any moisture from combustion byproducts from contaminating it.

Like I said, oil is cheap. Especially when compared to even minor repairs caused by lube failures. Why chance it.

I had an uncle once (passed away decades ago) who never changed oil ---- ever. His old chevy burned about a quart of oil every thousand miles or so and he figured the fresh quart he added replenished all the additives in the remaining oil. Some people have some strange beliefs when it comes to engine oil an changing it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:56 PM   #15
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Smile Don't Change The Oil....Change Your Plans!!

Sounds to me like it's time to change your priorities and get out there and see the world!!

Happy camping and stay safe out there....
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Only 1,300 miles in 12 months, change the oil?

Your engine HAS been prone to issues(as many have) and its an $8-10k engine change new. Oil change $100??? Change it. If I owned a Ford the oil would be the first thing I would be SURE to keep serviced...especially a gas burner. Camp on
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Old 05-24-2019, 04:41 PM   #17
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I have essentially the same coach as you Sagecoachdriver. I now use full synthetic oil and change (oil only - do it myself, < $60.00) it before I put it away for the winter and (oil and filter) when I take it out in the spring. I also get the generator serviced every spring. I average 1500 - 3000 miles per year. I run the engine for about 15 minutes (until it gets up to temperature) several times during the winter, when temps are above 30 degrees F. Once the solid freeze starts, I don't touch it.
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