Towing a Jeep Wrangler 4dr

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver

You do your own welding?

Yes.
Garage fabricator extraordinaire.
Just finished up my chase rack for the Toyota
My bud races a UTV.
2 spare tire mounts, umbrella mount, lights etc.
It also can be used as a hitch rack with the receiver tube I can bolt on.

[WI nomad]

Looks great! Nice work

[Sagecoachdriver]

Went to the Rincon Parkway in Ventura, CA last week and picked the brains of a few towing Jeeps. Most had 2dr Jeep toads, with two with 4 doors. Didn't get to chat with the 4dr folks but got lots of tips from those with 2 dr. I like the Rockhard bumper with the tow brackets mounted, DW doesn't. Saw the Invisibrake on a nice Red 2 DR jeep being towed by a Sunseeker. Thanks Jerry for the chats!
Hope to order one later this week!

Total Loss, are you in Simi or SFV?

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver

Total Loss, are you in Simi or SFV?

Simi

I think you will notice the difference between the 2 and 4 dr Wrangler tug.
4dr much heavier- depending on equipment (hard/soft top etc)

[Sagecoachdriver]

Originally Posted by Total Loss

Simi

I think you will notice the difference between the 2 and 4 dr Wrangler tug.
4dr much heavier- depending on equipment (hard/soft top etc)

4dr is still just under 5,000lbs, I think. Need to put the DW's tricycle folded up in the rear and my bike on a hitch rack.
I think I will go with the ReadyBrute Elite for towbar and braking. Not sure on the baseplate yet, Blue Ox, Roadmaster or the Rockhard bumper.

Total Loss, did you buy yours from Simi RV? Either you or sdgscott lives a few blocks away.

[Sagecoachdriver]

Hope to make our decision by Friday. Not sure how we would handle towing to Rincon, turning around and unhooking and hooking up? Any suggestions Total Loss???

[jjSpeedwagon]

You won't tug that hard these new v-10 have more hp and torque than most diesels in the class A. Behind our 2 door jeep I hook on an overland trailer 1450 lbs and it pulls great

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver

Total Loss, did you buy yours from Simi RV? Either you or sdgscott lives a few blocks away.

No- Mike Thompson- got a bargain.
You will probably have to unhook before getting into your site.
I obviously do that in back in sites.
Have the wife drive it up.
Once I had the driveshaft completely removed and forgot to put it in 4wd - left my wife stranded for a couple of minutes- she couldn't figure out to engage the front end.
I always remove either the whole shaft or the rear yoke and tie it up to the bed- I can't let the rear shaft spin or it burns up the rear bearing in the tranny- downfall of Toyotas.

[jjSpeedwagon]

This is our small overland trailer. Concord pulls both just fine 5400 total lbs.

[BamaBob]

Originally Posted by jjSpeedwagon

Attachment 134460

these new v-10 have more hp and torque than most diesels in the class A.

Ummm No..

(JK, nothing but love for my Coachman brethren )

[AquaMan]

I towed (just sold) a 2007 unlimited Sahara with armor, lifted, aftermarket bumpers, and 37" tires. Towed all over out west with a Blueox Alpha tow bar mounted to custom mounts on Rugged Ridge bumper. Braking was done by blueox Autostop which works great and for $250 is a bargain. I have less than $550 on a used towbar and a new Autostop.

[BamaBob]

Originally Posted by AquaMan

I towed (just sold) a 2007 unlimited Sahara with armor, lifted, aftermarket bumpers, and 37" tires. Towed all over out west with a Blueox Alpha tow bar mounted to custom mounts on Rugged Ridge bumper. Braking was done by blueox Autostop which works great and for $250 is a bargain. I have less than $550 on a used towbar and a new Autostop. Attachment 134481

That's a nice setup Tim!

[Sagecoachdriver]

You sure see much more 2 doors than 4 doors, why? I checked the weight and the 4 door is 400+lbs heavier than the 2 door. I guess I can expect to climb the Grapevine on the I-5 at 45mph instead of 65. I'm sure the transmission temperature which climbs up to 210˚ will be much higher.
Total Loss, do you disconnect before you get to Faria? Can the DW hold the spot with your truck while you turn around? I also spoke with Bob today, are you Eric?

[AquaMan]

Originally Posted by BamaBob

That's a nice setup Tim!

Thanks Bob. Looking for a new toad now. Wife wants back into an SUV (she's looking at an Acadia, Audi, Acura) of which only the Acadia is dinghy towable.
So, I'm looking at a new Jeep (wrangler or grand Cherokee).

[BamaBob]

Originally Posted by AquaMan

Thanks Bob. Looking for a new toad now. Wife wants back into an SUV (she's looking at an Acadia, Audi, Acura) of which only the Acadia is dinghy towable.
So, I'm looking at a new Jeep (wrangler or grand Cherokee).

Have her look at a Grand Cherokee Overland - or if you don't need/want the extra room, the Cherokee Overland. The Overland build is very nice and has every creature comfort you could want . We added skids and boosted the clearance 1" so we can go just about anywhere we please and still pull up to a nice restaurant in style

Since it was just the two of us, we opted for the Cherokee when they started the Overland build in mid-2016. I think we got one of the first Overland's off the line and we absolutely love it!

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by jjSpeedwagon

Attachment 134461

This is our small overland trailer. Concord pulls both just fine 5400 total lbs.

You pull that behind the Jeep...behind the MH?
Is that legal?

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver

You sure see much more 2 doors than 4 doors, why? I checked the weight and the 4 door is 400+lbs heavier than the 2 door. I guess I can expect to climb the Grapevine on the I-5 at 45mph instead of 65. I'm sure the transmission temperature which climbs up to 210˚ will be much higher.
Total Loss, do you disconnect before you get to Faria? Can the DW hold the spot with your truck while you turn around? I also spoke with Bob today, are you Eric?

I have never camped at Faria. I know the area is tight because we ride our bicycles by when we are up there. Just unhook at the free beach parking area first before you go it. Have your wife drive it in.
Yes- I am Eric (infamous)

When I am towing, I always manually shift.
I almost never floor it- just keep the engine RPMs up and tranny spinning.
It's an art to keep less torque into the tranny to keep it cool. Much easier when you do it yourself.

I am getting 9.8-10 towing the Toyota with the 6.0 Chevy and 6 spd.

[Total Loss]

Originally Posted by BamaBob

Have her look at a Grand Cherokee Overland - or if you don't need/want the extra room, the Cherokee Overland. The Overland build is very nice and has every creature comfort you could want . We added skids and boosted the clearance 1" so we can go just about anywhere we please and still pull up to a nice restaurant in style

Since it was just the two of us, we opted for the Cherokee when they started the Overland build in mid-2016. I think we got one of the first Overland's off the line and we absolutely love it!

Nice rig. I see you full time it now- makes sense on the big unit.

[AquaMan]

Originally Posted by BamaBob

Have her look at a Grand Cherokee Overland - or if you don't need/want the extra room, the Cherokee Overland. The Overland build is very nice and has every creature comfort you could want . We added skids and boosted the clearance 1" so we can go just about anywhere we please and still pull up to a nice restaurant in style

Since it was just the two of us, we opted for the Cherokee when they started the Overland build in mid-2016. I think we got one of the first Overland's off the line and we absolutely love it!

The Jeep is for me! I mocked up an SRT, but I can find better ways to spend $75-80K. I have been looking at the Overland and Trailhawk editions with the 5.7 hemi, I can find them for under $45k. Although, for the 2018 model they will build them with the 707hp Hellcat motor! I don't even want to know the price tag on that.

[Sagecoachdriver]

Total Loss, that was the area I meant just before the bend into Faria. Do you have the DW grab the spot and you pull beyond and u-turn? Can't believe I am spending $35K mostly for going to Carpenteria and Ventura. No use for it in Yosemite. Death Valley would probably make me consider going to Baker rather than Olancha or up from Trona and over Towne Pass.