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01-31-2015, 11:39 AM
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Location: Eagle Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by bclemens
Anything is possible...but again the backer in the floor will be the issue and we just started putting that in there in the last couple months.
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Hey BC, please push the factory to come up with a retrofit for installing the recliners in the 3010/3011. I would think many of us would spring for the cost to install either dealer or factory. I know I would. Anyone else wishing for that retro, way in please.
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01-31-2015, 11:43 AM
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Location: Pfafftown NC
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Originally Posted by JimOneil43
I think it was actually Henry Ford that said that....
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Yup! Henry talking about the Model T.
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02-01-2015, 01:07 AM
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#43
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 19,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rekwiat
Hey BC, please push the factory to come up with a retrofit for installing the recliners in the 3010/3011. I would think many of us would spring for the cost to install either dealer or factory. I know I would. Anyone else wishing for that retro, way in please.
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You're welcome to install them yourself or have a local shop do it. We're not much into the retrofit business. Someone over on the Solera thread just had their dealer put dual recliners in their unit. We won't touch it due to liability.
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02-01-2015, 02:44 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
Someone over on the Solera thread just had their dealer put dual recliners in their unit.
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Here's the 6-month old thread
http://www.forestriverforums.com/forums/f191/remove-dinette-install-new-dbl-recliner-2013-24s-57090-1.html
Silly me! I thought that Henry Ford's philosophy ("You can have any color you want as long as it's black") had gone to a quiet place to die and would never come back. Yet here it is again!
I can see being stuck with a sofa or a dinette when you buy secondhand coaches. You expect to be stuck with someone else's choices then, but why should you be forced to hold your nose and buy something NEW that you don't want and maybe only the manufacturer is sold on?
Here's an idea! Offer "Nothing"...a big open space... in place of the dinette. That would save us the trouble of removing new dinettes before installing the dual recliners we wanted in the first place.
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02-01-2015, 10:41 AM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
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You can already do that. You can omit just about anything you want.
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02-01-2015, 11:02 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Michigan
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Thanks for this welcome news. I never knew that omitting stuff was a possibility.
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02-01-2015, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Cut Off, La.
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FR should make several different couches of the same length and width and let customers pick and choose what they personally like. This is how Newmar does business. They allow a customer to semi-customize each RV they make if they want to.
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02-01-2015, 11:59 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Michigan
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So we can omit the dinette. If the door is wide enough (>25"), a very narrow recliner could make it through.
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02-01-2015, 03:46 PM
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#49
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 19,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Campin Cajun
FR should make several different couches of the same length and width and let customers pick and choose what they personally like. This is how Newmar does business. They allow a customer to semi-customize each RV they make if they want to.
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Newmar builds about 1000 a year. Forest River builds about 8000 per year. Just a completely different business model and definitely different price point.
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02-01-2015, 04:44 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Frankford Delaware
Posts: 22
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Like that sofa- we still have that uncomfortable jackknife in the 3010ds - gotta get rid of that! Is this one more comfortable?
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02-01-2015, 05:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,485
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After reading all, I have decided to enter my 2cents. I have a 2014 3170 and love the unit, hate the couch. Now I know that FR is not in the retro business but, I would think that FR would require the recliner supplier to design their frames to mount in the same spot as the existing couch. No frame changes for FR, seatbelt testing would pass faster and existing customers can purchase and replace without the worry of safety considerations.
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02-01-2015, 05:56 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Nomaca, PA
Posts: 31
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I knew the arms came off--I took them off most of the time when traveling. Is it possible to remove the arms and have the inserts already there. Then if folks wanted to buy the tables as an extra they could.
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02-01-2015, 06:25 PM
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#53
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 19,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrette
After reading all, I have decided to enter my 2cents. I have a 2014 3170 and love the unit, hate the couch. Now I know that FR is not in the retro business but, I would think that FR would require the recliner supplier to design their frames to mount in the same spot as the existing couch. No frame changes for FR, seatbelt testing would pass faster and existing customers can purchase and replace without the worry of safety considerations.
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We would still have to seatbelt test and there is no fast or slow test, only test or no test. Plus the recliners are a different weight and require different backer.
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02-02-2015, 10:43 AM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
Well, its not as simple as it sounds. On a trailer you can pop a lazy boy in and off you go. OUR recliners have to pass seatbelt testing.
having said that, we already have a dual recliner option on the 3010 & 3011. The R model Sprinter has just been cleared and we're looking to run a proto on the 3050/51.
Every slide floor that is different, has to be re-tested.
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We like the 3050/3051 because the bed is big enough (60 X 80) has the residential fridge option. Just need recliners to make it just right. Hopefully, someday we can get all three options.
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02-02-2015, 02:52 PM
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2015 Sunseeker 2300
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 134
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OH MY YES We just got our new Sunseeker and oh how i wish you had offered me this for my 2300 with the sofa option! Yes our sofa arms are removable but would have LOVED to have the tables that tucked into the arms...why why why didn't Paul even mention this to us!!!!
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02-02-2015, 03:19 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 19,004
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He didn't mention because it didn't exist. This picture is of a proto type that just got built at our supplier. Their employees, me and now you are the only ones that have seen it.
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03-29-2015, 03:18 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 8
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I guess I'm late to the party but our 3170 would have benefited from these greatly. We were always trying to squeeze in a TV tray or two on stormy days.... Great idea and I hope it gets adopted as I'm planning to upgrade later this year!!!!
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03-30-2015, 05:56 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclemens
Recliners don't lay all the way flat, but pretty far. Consider it snore prevention.
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Wow I would order those right now for my 3050s! Would love to chuck that God awful sofa. Any chance of being able to order?
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03-30-2015, 07:25 PM
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#59
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bristol, IN
Posts: 19,004
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The flat floor version for the 3050 is still being designed. No part number yet. Which reminds me to check on an update.
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04-02-2015, 08:37 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 48
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Recliner for 3050s
I purchased a 70" brown leather theatre seat with duel recliners at Ashley's Furniture for $800. I had to remove 4 bolts on each recliner to bring the unit into the coach and reassembled. The salesman helped me, keeping the warranty intact. It sets the same footprint as the factory (quite uncomfortable) couch. We will not have any passengers so I wrapped the seat belts around the frame so it cannot move. Very comfortable and fits fine even when fully reclined.
The new coach was on the trade-in block without this sofa. Just too uncomfortable to watch TV.
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