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Old 12-20-2022, 07:18 AM   #1
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2023 GT7 36D7 Weight ?

So on the way home from taking delivery I stopped at a CAT scale to weigh unit before loading it up. Unit has washer dryer and residential fridge. I weigh about 230lbs. and gas tank was full. My weights were steer axle 7520, drive axle was 13640, for gross weight of 21160. Seems light based on brochure stating GVWR of 24,000. Seems crazy that the brochure is off by almost 3k pounds. Has anyone else weighed their unit empty?. Just wondering if the GCWR will still be 30,000?
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Old 12-20-2022, 09:00 AM   #2
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That sounds about right for your coach being empty. That leaves you 2,840 for cargo, water, LP, personal belongings and passengers. Brochure is stating the 36D7 sits on a 24K chassis not indicating the "dry weight" of 24K. I hope I said that correctly?? As for your question on the 30,000 pound combination rating.... yes that is still correct. Hope this helps. Congrats on your new rig!
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Old 12-20-2022, 12:49 PM   #3
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GVWR and GCWR are unchanging numbers set by the manufacturer based on the chassis strength.

GVWR is the maximum the coach itself can ever weigh without exceeding its design limits. If the actual weight on the front axle plus the actual weight on the rear axle exceeds the GVWR number you're overloaded.

(GCWR minus GVWR) is the unrestricted towing weight, assuming a hitch of sufficient strength. That is the weight you could always tow horizontally but does not consider the "tongue weight" of what is being towed. The difference between GCWR and GVWR can never be used to add stuff into the coach, just for towing.

Note that the brakes on a vehicle are, per federal requirements, only designed and tested to safely stop the GVWR, never the GCWR. That's why anything being towed needs to have its own braking system.

On the door frame, usually, is a yellow OCCC sticker. It stands for Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity. The weight on the OCCC sticker is how much weight you can add in people, pets, stuff, and fresh water before the GVWR limit is reached. The OCCC sticker is created for each coach as it leaves the factory so they all can be different. That means the OCCC sticker takes the weight of all factory-installed options into consideration.

From the numbers you posted I'd guess your OCCC sticker shows you can add around 3,000 lbs. Is that correct?

Note that the US OCCC sticker shows the weight of full fresh water but does not include it because no one except you knows how much fresh water you'll need to carry.

In addition to the GVWR limit you have a GAWR limit, the Gross Axle Weight Rating. For the 24K GVWR chassis the front axle can never have more than 9,000 lbs on it and the rear axle can never have more than 15,500 lbs on it. You currently are well under those limits. Generally you'll see the weight of all stuff and water cause a rear axle weight increase, because almost everything is added behind the front axle.

Now you need to fully load the coach up with all people, full fuel, full water, full "stuff" and go over the CAT Scale again. If you're still under your GVWR and GAWR limits you're golden.

Some Georgetowns have as little as 1,800 lbs of OCCC. Those folks can overload their chassis fairly easily. I doubt you'll have that problem.

Hope this helps,

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Old 12-20-2022, 07:18 PM   #4
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Thanks NXR I'm doing exactly what you said weigh the vehicle loaded. I probably won't be over 1700 pounds with people and content. I also plan on pulling a Ford ranger behind it which is probably 4600 pounds max with fuel. I should be fine. I hope
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