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Old 10-18-2020, 10:44 PM   #1
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We have an outlet under the kitchen cabinet where we normally plug our Keurig that seems to be dead. Husband removed it, tested the wire and it has no power. So, we are thinking the wire must be loose somewhere on the way to the outlet. Any ideas?
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Old 10-19-2020, 08:13 AM   #2
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If the other outlets on that circuit are working your thoughts seem to be correct back track to the next outlet that is working and check for loose wires.
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Old 10-19-2020, 08:18 AM   #3
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No other outlet has an issue. GFI isn't tripped either. We checked that. How do you trace wires in a wall? I'm thinking I'll keep the Keurig in the bathroom until the Spring when we have other warranty work done.
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Old 10-19-2020, 08:23 AM   #4
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Check the master GFCI outlets to insure they are not tripped. If they are good and this is the only outlet not working, trace the wire back to the outlet just before it as mentioned above. Most RVs use quick connect punch down type outlets which can fail under heavy load. If the space is available I suggest since you have the outlet out, you replace it with standard screw connect outlet.
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No other outlet has an issue. GFI isn't tripped either. We checked that. How do you trace wires in a wall? I'm thinking I'll keep the Keurig in the bathroom until the Spring when we have other warranty work done.
Iím going to say MOST, but it should be ALL, kitchen outlets....being in close proximity to the sink....SHOULD be in line from the GFI outlet located somewhere in the RV. Re-check all the wires for power back to the GFI outlet (located in my bathroom of our rig).
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Remove nearby outlets one at a time and look for loose connection. My guess is with the other folks. A wire is loose/burned at the outlet that is "up stream" from the one you have.
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We actually have three GFI outlets in our GT5 34H5, one in the rear bathroom, one in the half-bath, and one in the kitchen almost over the sink.

If you have one over the sink it might be tripped because normally you cannot see its green light because that outlet faces straight down. That one also powers another under-cabinet outlet in the kitchen.

In our GT5 we only have two 120 VAC outlet circuit breakers. One is for all non-GFI breakers and the other is for all GFI breakers.

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Old 10-19-2020, 09:54 AM   #8
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Just FYI, the gfci that receptacle is tied to may not be in the bathroom. It could be outside. Our second one was under the awning.
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Remove nearby outlets one at a time and look for loose connection. My guess is with the other folks. A wire is loose/burned at the outlet that is "up stream" from the one you have.
OK after reading the latest 2 posts I adjust my recommendation.
BEFORE you remove any other outlets you should check EVERY other outlet inside or outside your rig. It's possible you have another GFI outlet somewhere that's tripped.
IF that fails to help you THEN you should remove outlets one at a time looking for a loose wire.
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Thanks folks! I am wondering about the outside GFI. The inside outlets all work and the only GFI with the little buttons in the outlet are in the back bathroom and they were not tripped. The front bathroom must be on that same circuit as there are no little buttons in that outlet. We'll be out in her in a couple weeks and are going to try to narrow down this issue if we can. The puzzle that is a RV is sometimes frustrating and other times kind of fun figuring it out.
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Check your circuit breaker panel for GFI (GFCI) breakers. There most likely will be one for each GFI circuit, ie. one GFI breaker=one circuit with one resettable GFI receptacle.
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The inside outlets all work and the only GFI with the little buttons in the outlet are in the back bathroom and they were not tripped.
Look closer.

I never saw the buttons on the one in the kitchen outlet mounted under the cabinet over the sink until I looked at each outlet with a flashlight. Because the GFI light also faced down we never saw the green light as well so we did not notice it was dark.

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Check your circuit breaker panel for GFI (GFCI) breakers. There most likely will be one for each GFI circuit, ie. one GFI breaker=one circuit with one resettable GFI receptacle.
Bubbles: A GFI outlet costs around $15 while a GFI circuit breaker is $45 up.
Most RV manufacturers are using GFI outlets for this reason.
Thus the hunt for the GFI outlet when it gets tripped.
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Bubbles: A GFI outlet costs around $15 while a GFI circuit breaker is $45 up.
Most RV manufacturers are using GFI outlets for this reason.
Thus the hunt for the GFI outlet when it gets tripped.
Yup.
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Yup.


Thanks so much. The outlet does not have a GFI button on it. But we can check the panel box again. I definitely think it should not be this complicated, but time will tell. Thanks again.
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Thanks so much. The outlet does not have a GFI button on it. But we can check the panel box again. I definitely think it should not be this complicated, but time will tell. Thanks again.
I meant to look at every outlet with a flashlight.

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Oh, ok. We can do that. Thanks.
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Bubbles: A GFI outlet costs around $15 while a GFI circuit breaker is $45 up.
Most RV manufacturers are using GFI outlets for this reason.
Thus the hunt for the GFI outlet when it gets tripped.
My point was that each GFCI circuit with a resettable outlet will be independent with its own circuit breaker and is typically labeled as such in the coach breaker panel. If there is more than one resettable GFCI outlet I think that circuit should be independently labelled as such in the breaker panel. If there is more than one GFCI breaker there will be more than one resettable GFCI outlet ( no reason to look for something that does not exist). Non GFCI outlets (circuits) will be labeled otherwise.
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My point was that each GFCI circuit with a resettable outlet will be independent with its own circuit breaker and is typically labeled as such in the coach breaker panel. If there is more than one resettable GFCI outlet I think that circuit should be independently labelled as such in the breaker panel. Non GFCI outlets will be labeled otherwise.
Labeled circuit breakers??? Bwa ha ha ha....
Maybe they are labeled if you are lucky! Mine are labeled but the guy must have been standing on his head writing with his left hand. None of the scribbles look like GFI. OTOH, most of the wiring I've looked at is done fairly neatly and with tight connections so I'm not complaining too much. I've re-labeled the few breakers I needed to worry about.
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Labeled circuit breakers??? Bwa ha ha ha....
Maybe they are labeled if you are lucky! Mine are labeled but the guy must have been standing on his head writing with his left hand. None of the scribbles look like GFI. OTOH, most of the wiring I've looked at is done fairly neatly and with tight connections so I'm not complaining too much. I've re-labeled the few breakers I needed to worry about.
My post was for the OP and her Georgetown MH. With few exceptions they appear to be labeled legibly? and accurately.
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